50NL - Push top pair against loose players?

[Avocado]

No stats, but the SB loves to resteal (this was the third reraise in a row against me). BB is loose.

Why I like a push here:
1) I don't think SB would bet half pot here with a real hand. If you have something, you check/raise or make a higher bet, given the draws in the flop.
2) BB wouldn't just call here with a real hand.

Any comments? Thanks a lot.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($59.90)
BB ($122.20)
UTG ($55.65)
Hero ($55.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $5</font>, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7.5</font>, BB calls $7.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

[EricW]

fold

[DeuceSeven]

Fold wait til your heads up or in a little better spot.

[Chomp]

Hmmmmmmm....I'm not sure what I am about to say is in any way right, but I'll run it up the flagpole anyway....

We are getting 4:1 direct odds here with TP and a gutshot in the face of some weak-ass, confused betting and we're IP.

I definitely do not push/raise, but if we call I think there is a reasonable chance we'll see 2 cards for $7.5 because villains will often get nervous in a 3-way pot with marginal holdings OOP on us after their flop cbet/call.

Sure, if they come out all guns blazing on turn and there's no Q or 9 then you know your toast, but I'm not sure villains are as strong as they are trying to make out here.

Pf is meh.

Anyone saluting?

[Avocado]

I can't see the SB betting half pot with 2pair, set, overpair or top-pair A/K kicker, given there's a flush and a str8 draw in the board. He's LAG, so I think most of the time he has AK, AJ, AT, JJ or 99.
And I don't see the BB calling with any hands better than mine. I put him in the same range.

[Fallen00]

id fold.. you have tpgk/gutshot in a 3betted PF pot with 2 caller..

you have next to zero fold equity against two villains.. one will have a set/big flush draw/overpair to yours very often in this spot

[Check_The_Nuts]

Honestly I don't think I'd raise preflop in this situation. Jerk SB is going to bloat the pot, and you have a hand that likes to do this sort of thing (good but not great hand, where you could be good but have no actual idea, and have to bluff to play it any further). Your chances of stealing preflop aren't great either, if SB doesn't repop you, BB is going to call anyways.

I dunno, argue with me.

[wingchunflush]

fold