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Old 12-31-2006, 05:08 PM
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Default $225 JJ min re re raised

Villain was 26/9.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1440)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1590)
MP3 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t40</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t160</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t280</font>, Hero calls t120

Flop: (t630) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t630) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets t300</font>, Hero...
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Old 12-31-2006, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

I don't like the play on the flop. You must lead out on the flop. Especially after his check. I'd have bet probably t400 on the flop. If he calls, check-fold it down. If he raises, then fold.

As played, I would re-raise to t600. If he calls, check-fold it down.
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Old 12-31-2006, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

For starters, I wouldn't make the PF reraise so much. When he min-reraises, are you playing your JJ for set value? If so, I'd check-fold. If you think he'd donk around w/ other hands, I'd call the turn and call/shove a non A/K river. My standard though would be check-fold.
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Old 12-31-2006, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

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As played, I would re-raise to t600. If he calls, check-fold it down.

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Raising and then folding would be awful.
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Old 12-31-2006, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

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Raising and then folding would be awful.

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*shrug* This is a $225 table. Highest I've played is $100 tables. And even at $100, the range of hands willing to call a good PF bet and then call a large flop bet is pretty small. Usually AA, KK, QQ, or a set. Not even AK.

If this was a $6 table, or even potentially a $15 table, I'd say he should push on the turn. But I'm guessing you don't see too many donkeys on a $225 table.
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Old 01-01-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

Is villain a winner(sharkscope stats)? 26/9 overall or at this blind level?

His line is really donkish, but sharks seem to mimic donks a lot more at the higher levels.

If he's a solid winner I can't imagine you are ever ahead. Yet I can't imagine a solid player taking this line without at least one misclick involved.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

yeah the stats dont make me happy with the PF reraise. i DO believe there are good spots to rr jj PF even if not overshoving but if hes like this over a big sample AND a winner on sharkscope im trying not to do this against him too often when hes opening in EP.

as played, i dont think you can check this kind of flop and then decide to call a turn bet like this. i honestly cant say what id do without more analysis (im too hung over) but if im willing to call a bet on a later street im firing this flop. if im not, im check folding the turn as played.
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Old 01-01-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: $225 JJ min re re raised

Looking at this again, I think the line is as follows:

Villain reraised PF. Then, when the flop came blanks, villain checked hoping for a bet so that he could check-raise. When he didn't get it, he bet on the turn.

I agree with Burno that the line is somewhat donkish, though. I can't imagine someone vying for a check-raise on a $225 table.

I think Villain has QQ, KK, or AA here.
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