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Old 12-03-2006, 04:54 PM
Cormia Cormia is offline
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Default AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

This is another of my experimental hands where I check after a PFRR, here to balance out when I do it with something like KK/QQ.

Reads: Villian is pretty bad (50/15 over 460). We have not tangled too much strangely enough. Because of his VPIP, he is one of the more common callers of my PFR, but he mostly folds to my CBs. Watching him against other players, he has been pretty eager to stack off with top pair, but basically folds everything else. There have been two hands though that bear similar relation to this one. On the first, he lead 1/2 PSB into my PFR, I reraised w/the QQ on Kxx, he called and then 2/3 donk on the turn that I folded to. The second hand was similar, but there he used a stop-on-go to my TPDK (QJ) on Q654 that I folded to on the turn.


No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($150.05)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($102.85)</font>
BB ($42.35)
UTG ($100)
MP ($64.15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($870.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $14.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $10.

Flop: ($46) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($46) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $15.

River: ($76) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $72.85 (All-In)</font>, HERO ???
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

Well, don't fold. I don't like the flop check either. Two opponents, flush draw, a Q on board, just bet.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

bet the flop ,and i think u can call this river bet.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

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Well, don't fold. I don't like the flop check either. Two opponents, flush draw, a Q on board, just bet.

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what does the Q have to do with anything?
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

Given that this is threeway, I think betting the flop is mandatory. As played, river is probably a call, but definitely don't expect to win every time.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

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Well, don't fold. I don't like the flop check either. Two opponents, flush draw, a Q on board, just bet.

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what does the Q have to do with anything?

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He said he was checking partially to balance his checks with underpairs. Now he has fewer whiffed underpairs. In addition, any two broadway cards now have 4-5 outs. on a drier board like A83, they'd be drawing dead.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

Two Things.

1) Nice stack at $100NL? Move up soon.

2) Bet flop. As played. Call river.

FPS IS BAD.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

Thats actually another point. I have been in a couple of reraise pots, but they ended to CBs, so I doubt anyone is noticing the balance. Given how rarely reraise pots happen, and the even larger rarity of reraise pots with A's, is it worth bothering with this if you likely won't even meet villian again.
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Old 12-03-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: AK in PFRR pot vs. bad villian

Two opponents + fd + broadway gutshots = bet the flop

Against one opponent I don't hate a flop check but there's no need to "balance" your play by checking when you're against two possibly drawing opponents. As played I call because he's been running over you and you have top two. He could be on KQ/AQ/A7/missed fd to make a call profitable.

But yeah against calling stations just bet the flop
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