4/180: QQ deepstacked vs. chipleader.

Jigsaws · #1 12-01-2006, 07:46 PM

Button seems fairly good, semi-loose and aggressive. I haven't seen him 3-bet so far, though I did 3-bet an UTG minraise of his, he folded, a donk flat-called, and I took it down on a low flop.

Not sure what to make of this weird small reraise. Does anyone 4-bet preflop? Flop is terrible, of course, so check-fold is standard, I'd say.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t24845)
SB (t8974)
BB (t5547)
UTG (t10365)
MP1 (t5380)
MP2 (t6329)
Hero (t12690)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t600, Button raises to t1600, 2 folds, Hero calls t1000.

Flop: (t3325) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t2000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t5325

ASPoker8 · #2 12-01-2006, 07:51 PM

as played fold.

But I 4bet allin a lot here

Fiksdal · #3 12-01-2006, 07:56 PM

Flop is standard.

Need some reasons why you didn't re-raise preflop though.

BlueEcho · #4 12-01-2006, 08:00 PM

I'm allin after button's reraise here.

As played I fold after flop.

Jigsaws · #5 12-01-2006, 08:08 PM

Well, ya know, we're 60BBs deep. Do we get calls from anything but QQ+, AK if we shove? It may be a 4/180, but my read is that he's fairly decent...

Fiksdal · #6 12-01-2006, 08:15 PM

I understand your point, but I don't think you are at a high enough level for this to be relevant enough.

In a 4/180 I need a pretty strong read for this logic to apply. And at least if you re-raise, you don't give him a shot at that flop. You say he is a bit laggy, so he will probably have QQ+ a very small amount of the time. Your raise came from cuttoff, so a decent lag player might "resteal" pretty light. If villain is decent as you say, he might be aware of his image, and call with something like TT+, AQ+. He does have you covered and will still be deep if he loses.

BlueEcho · #7 12-01-2006, 08:21 PM

Hmmm i see your point but I have a problem with it. That being the assumption that since he is a decent player he is baiting you with AA or KK. I would think that a decent player might play back at you with a much wider range here. Granted that little reraise would catch my attention. Well crap now you have me teetering both ways.

It may be closer then I once thought but I still believe I'm ahead here more then I'm not. I guess I need a better read then "decent player" to presuade me much more.

Fiksdal · #8 12-01-2006, 08:25 PM

Echo: We are defineatley ahead of Buttons range here, the point OP was making was that if we push, he might call only when he has QQ+.

siwicki · #9 12-01-2006, 08:30 PM

terrible flop

Jeff76 · #10 12-01-2006, 08:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Well, ya know, we're 60BBs deep. Do we get calls from anything but QQ+, AK if we shove?

[/ QUOTE ]I a 4/180, yes. People do this all the time with any pocket pair, including stuff like 44.

Edit: And more importantly, they'll call- and then flop a set [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]