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Old 11-29-2006, 08:17 PM
Boquense Boquense is offline
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Default 2/4 KK flop decision.

MP is complete donkey, could have as little as 1 overcard on flop. Button is 2+2 poster/lurker straate, who is multitabling semiLAG 26/21, who for some reason seems to get mixed up w/me fairly often.

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MP ($1009.90)
Button ($1047.40)
SB ($408.15)
BB ($440.75)
Hero ($382)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, MP calls $14, Button calls $14, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($48) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33</font>, MP calls $33, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $122</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero??
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

Heads up against Straate this looks like a push. In this spot though I think I like just calling and getting it all in on a non club turn and hope the donkey comes along for the ride.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

You are ahead of Straate had this been HU. With the donk in between I'm not so sure, but I guess he should have noticed his donkiness as well. Push is fine.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

folddd
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:06 PM
PatInTheHat PatInTheHat is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

I've been thinking about this more. Because donkey is there do you think Straate is raising to isolate or because he has a monster? I honestly am leaning more towards monster as fish tend to call and if hes drawing it looks like a good spot to just call.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

monster raises

weak draw might raise

strong draw probably calls

looks like a fold
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:02 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

Fold looks good. You bet multiway into a fish who never folds and he's raising when he would be getting good odds on a draw. You're marginally ahead, marginally behind, or crushed. Drop it like it's hot.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

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You're marginally ahead, marginally behind, or crushed. Drop it like it's hot.

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Old 11-30-2006, 01:51 AM
Boquense Boquense is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 KK flop decision.

Yeah, I felt icky after the hand... felt like the donk I am.
Guess I felt like you were pushing me around a bit.

Anyway, results: straate had 4c3c, I'm marginally ahead of pair+fd. My hand holds up.
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