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Old 11-27-2006, 07:35 PM
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Villan is TAG. opener sucks balls and has been miniraising alot. Hero is TAG, though may be viewed as aggro. Stacks are $200.

Bad player opens UTG for $4. Unknown calls $4, Villan calls $4 in the SB. Hero is in the BB w. Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and makes it $25. All fold, villan calls in the SB. Same villan as in my AQ hand, he runs like 18/11 seems nitty/predictable, though I don't put it past him to make a move.

($60)Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villan checks, and I check.

($60)Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villan bets $40, I call.

($140)River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villan bets $80, Hero...?

I don't think he has AK. He doesnt cold call there. J...not that many combos. Is this a fold?
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:39 PM
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until he proves to be not nitty/predictable, I think this is a fold. Backdoor flush got there too.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:39 PM
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yuck...what a weird [censored] hand. do you think he has JJ? What else would possibly play this way. TT doesn't bet the river, right?

I put him on JJ. And there's only one way to make it. i'd probably call out of curiosity.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:39 PM
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you think JJ flat callst here PF to the miniraise?
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:42 PM
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But I could see JJ, playing it that way from the SB. I think it's the best way to play TT. And if you think that the donk will autocall a raise and get everyone to call behind, then I like just calling preflop with JJ to the miniraise.

What other hands though? AQ that would be a gross way to play it.

someone else made a good point about the back door flush getting there. Maybe he had AQ hearts and picked up a decent draw on the turn.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:42 PM
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you think JJ flat callst here PF to the miniraise?

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Probably not, 99 often would though. That's the only thing that makes alot of sense to me.
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:44 PM
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you think JJ flat callst here PF to the miniraise?

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Probably not, 99 often would though. That's the only thing that makes alot of sense to me.

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yeah, I guess, but calling that out of the SB has to be a leak. And this guy seems so anal tight.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:40 PM
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This hand would have been a lot simpler if you had bet the flop. (not necessarily more +EV though)

As played, I'm usually folding the turn and definitely the river. I can't see what you beat other than air. If he has the balls to fire two barrels, OOP, in a rr pot, without top pair, he deserves it.
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:59 PM
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I'm about 50/50 for the flop check. Might have given you more info if he raised, but not really if he just called.

As played, my QQ would hit the muck and I would be thinking about the next hand...
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:13 PM
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river def. fold, if he bluffed u w/ 2 barrels then he is a god.
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