Top two pair on the monotone flop, an awful play :(

[friend_]

Sorry, I was new to table. No reads.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $138.12
UTG+1: $130.88
CO: $144.71
Button: $108.30
Hero: $101.05
BB: $102.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $10</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($34, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $15</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $75.9</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $30.05</font>.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($305.85, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $304.15, Sidepot 1: $1.7)


Results:
Final pot: $305.85

Where are my mistakes in exception of the last uggly call?

[The Velour Fog]

c/c turn isnt horrible as he gives you a good price trying to fill up. he has the nuts here very often so theres some juicy implied odds.
raising turn is gross.

[friend_]

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c/c turn isnt horrible as he gives you a good price trying to fill up. he has the nuts here very often so theres some juicy implied odds.
raising turn is gross.

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So, there is no need to charge them for possible flush draw, neither on flop nor on turn?

[The Velour Fog]

well you have to ask yourself how much action you'll get from hands that are behind.. especially since you have no reads/prior history. there are definately spots where i could see myself jamming the turn vs specific oponents.

the normal NL100 player isnt that savy that he will semibluff big like this.

[Kurtiii]

how is a lead/fold turn here for about 3/4 pot ?

As allready stated, the average 100NL guy raaarely semibluffs AI there and will push his made flushs, sets. Since there are no other 2 pairs possible i think we can savely fold if he raises teh turn.
Can´t see us either folding or raising the flop, raising allows pair/fdraw and made flushes/sets to play perfectely deceptive and we are in an even uglier spot.

[olof86]

Calling flop, leading turn for about 25 should be allright. Fold to a raise.

[CountDante]

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the normal NL100 player isnt that savy that he will semibluff big like this.

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I think this is the biggest point here. NL 100 is all about hammer and anvil, subtle creative play is usually lost.

Now, more than likely, I would have paid this guy off too, BUT, i would have done it for as cheaply as possible. For me in 100 NL ring, 3 to a flush on the flop with the way they are betting and me with 2 pair is scary.

[Leviathan]

i really don't like the turn c/r.
As explained by others, it's likely that a c/r on turn will only get action from better hands, made flushes and sets. Only hand that you beat would be something like A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9o or 2o.

So on turn i c/c.
If turn is a diamond, i c/f.
If turn isn't a diamond, i c/c, hoping that my check let my opponent a chance to bluff with a busted flush draw.

You say your turn call is horrible. It's not: once you c/red (which is bad IMO), you have to call his r/r, you have almost the odds to fill.

[friend_]

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i really don't like the turn c/r.
You say your turn call is horrible. It's not: once you c/red (which is bad IMO), you have to call his r/r, you have almost the odds to fill.

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Actually 1:9, it is no enough to hit my 1:11 draw.
If we were deeper, it is an easy call.

I wont think that BB intended to bluff on two opponents again.
My main mistake taken from my Limit game - check-raising in no limit is too costly.

I am leaning towards betting on no diamond turn and may be fold to raise, but accordingly to BB large raise on flop c/c may be the best.

[HaiaN]

c/c turn c/f river if you don't fill up, instafold to a 4th diamond of course