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Old 11-21-2006, 05:21 PM
Askilus Askilus is offline
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Default $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

First raiser is playing his first hand at this table. I don't have much of a read on the other either, but he's not a tight nit!

I should jump up and down, singing and shoving my chips in the middle, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t2960)
MP2 (t2595)
MP3 (t6665)
CO (t3130)
Button (t1080)
SB (t5902)
Hero (t2525)
UTG (t2130)
UTG+1 (t4930)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t3130</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t2375 (All-In)

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Old 11-21-2006, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

from the facts of this case i deduce he has KK and fold
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

This is standard and correct but not really worth singing about - you will bust in the neighborhood of 50% of the time here I think but the pot odds more than make up for it
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

Easy push.
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Old 11-21-2006, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

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Easy push.

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Old 11-21-2006, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

Nah, I see that your not that good at reading hands. Obvously the reraiser has JJ and flops a J. Easy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Case closed, I just wanted to confirm that I was right.
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

If you ever fold QQ in a non-sat low-stakes MTT preflop (in a non-bubble, non weird $EV implication situation), you should probably stab yourself.

There was 1 time I should have ever folded QQ preflop in a MTT, and it was in a very specific stack-size situation at the end of a 20/180 where I had a +EV/-$EV spot.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

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If you ever fold QQ in a non-sat low-stakes MTT preflop (in a non-bubble, non weird $EV implication situation), you should probably stab yourself.

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Old 11-22-2006, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

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If you ever fold QQ in a non-sat low-stakes MTT preflop (in a non-bubble, non weird $EV implication situation), you should probably stab yourself.

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I don't understand this advice at all. All I play is low-stakes MTT. I have folded QQ several times PF and been right 90% of the time, especially in the first 4 rounds. When the blinds are substantial, I would never fold. But if blinds are 20/40 and it's raise, raise, all-in, call before it gets to me, I'm GONE. No race or being dominated for me. (Is that a non weird $EV implication situation?)

I tend to the "Don't let a lady send you to the rail" theory, especially early.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: $11: I can\'t wait to get my money in, right?

Ok, look, if it's 20/40 blinds, and you're in the BB with a 2000 stack, and ahead of you, you see UTG raise to 120, UTG+1 reraise to 300, MP2 all-in for 1500, BU all-in for 2000, and you really want to fold QQ, whatever. That will not happen real often. Usually is 1 or 2 at most ahead of you.

But the "no race" comment from you concerns me. I mean, if you see like, UTG raise, MP2 push, and you're acting with QQ and you know MP2 has AK, then you need to get it in too because you're in a flip (where you're a slight favorite) with an overlay from the blinds and the chips UTG put in. I'm not going to get into the classic QQ vs. "expose AK" debate, but suffice it to say, far smarter people than me have explained to death why no good player should ever fold QQ in that type of spot.
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