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Old 11-06-2006, 03:16 PM
Malmbilen Malmbilen is offline
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Default NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

Villain is 40/6/0.5 after 60 hands.

I usually cbet this flop but forgot to this time due to me 12-tabling. Easy call on the river? It feels like I often see a full house or a flopped str8 in these situations.



Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $85.05
UTG+1: $42.95
Hero: $103.40
Button: $78.10
SB: $115.85
BB: $51.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6.1</font>, BB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($20.7, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $41.35</font>, Hero...?
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:28 PM
Freelancer Freelancer is offline
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

I'd call, quick no thought pushes are generally bluffs (in my experience anyway).

A flopped straight would reraise on the turn or bet on the flop. This goes for two pairs as well.

Ah just noticed a AF of 0.5. I don't use HUD personally so I am not sure how fast this stat converges.
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:04 PM
MrBogs MrBogs is offline
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

Definate call, this hand to good to throw away, and as Freelancer said, no thought pushes are generally an attempt to steal the pot.Would be unlucky if his holding is AQ or KQ or even Q7 which I have seen played, but thats poker. Call!!
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

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Definate call, this hand to good to throw away,

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this is level 1 thinking.


with an AF that low, this is never a bluff, if he got there with a worse Q id be surprised, but if you had cbet it would be easier to say. Its probably a fold.
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

Bet the flop. Fold the river. I'd say.
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

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Definate call, this hand to good to throw away,

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this is level 1 thinking.



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Sorry if my level of play is insuperior to yours!! But forget stats go back to the fundementals of poker, reads etc. Trips is a good hand 6 handed and the only time i'm laying them down is when my read is a higher set if i'm holding a mid set or there is a board which looks like a full house as hit.Poker is about luck combined with skill and an element of risk, not just stats.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

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Definate call, this hand to good to throw away,

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this is level 1 thinking.



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Sorry if my level of play is insuperior to yours!! But forget stats go back to the fundementals of poker, reads etc. Trips is a good hand 6 handed and the only time i'm laying them down is when my read is a higher set if i'm holding a mid set or there is a board which looks like a full house as hit.Poker is about luck combined with skill and an element of risk, not just stats.

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level 1 players think about their hand

level 2 players think about what their opponents hand is

level 3 think about what their opponent thinks they have


saying OMG call you have 3 queens is fundamentally bad poker, im not trying to be an ass but you shouldnt be making calls for reasons like this. I agree the game is about more than stats, but its important to recognie that this guy rarely bets or raises and has made a very strong move. Also in my experience overbets are hardly ever bluffs at this level.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

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Definate call, this hand to good to throw away,

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this is level 1 thinking.



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Sorry if my level of play is insuperior to yours!! But forget stats go back to the fundementals of poker, reads etc. Trips is a good hand 6 handed and the only time i'm laying them down is when my read is a higher set if i'm holding a mid set or there is a board which looks like a full house as hit.Poker is about luck combined with skill and an element of risk, not just stats.

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Usually, when I start to think like this, I find myself losing about 30BB/hr.

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Old 11-06-2006, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

Fold. I think you look up a flopped set or KQ/AQ way too often to make picking off bluffs/worse queens profitable.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: NL100 6max, QJo rivers trips, villain instapushes 2xpot

Not going to disagree with your points, just my read on the hand is a call. Should villian be holding AQ or KQ then tough on me but analysing the hand without a read on villian at this moment in time is telling me to call.
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