QQ vs 3-bet PF

johnnycakes · #1 11-30-2006, 05:57 PM

FTP 2/4
$400 stacks.
UTG opens to $14
I raise QQ to $48.
Folded to primemutton in the BB. He's about 30/20; plenty aggressive.
He makes it $160
UTG folds.

What do I do?

I pushed, which I now think is wrong.
A friend says a push is fine vs him.

jfish · #2 11-30-2006, 05:57 PM

fold. flip/dominated blah blah.

KingGordy · #3 11-30-2006, 06:02 PM

I think you can fold here given the positions the raises are coming from. Make UTG the CO and you the button and then maybe we can talk about pushing.

tranquilize · #4 11-30-2006, 06:06 PM

What is your table image? If you've been folding to some reraises and he is observant he could be bullying you. That is the first question I would ask. QQ is a great hand but not one to get attached to... definitely not for all your money. If you truly believe that he is bullying you then you have to think about the percentage of times he will call you if you push and how often he will have AA or KK when he does call. I assume that you have a -EV over the long run.

You cannot determine any of that, though, if you don't have a great read on him. I would give him a little credit here without any information and either call or fold... I would personally get rid of the QQ here.

nicksson · #5 11-30-2006, 06:07 PM

I think its a good push, but it would be nice have more information like if you have reraised him alot before, and your own stats.

johnnycakes · #6 11-30-2006, 06:14 PM

I think he was relatively new to the table. But we've played before. If he has a read on me, it's almost certainly "nit"

nicksson · #7 11-30-2006, 06:16 PM

If he think you're a nit then its an easy fold

jsnipes28 · #8 11-30-2006, 06:30 PM

i prob go allin bc most lags are retarded.
they will show u A9o and SC's plenty.
that being said a fold isnt terrible, but i think shove is best

FireStorm · #9 11-30-2006, 06:35 PM

If he thinks you're nitty, fold, you're either dominated or flipping. I wouldn't really fault a shove here, but if he's messing around with some stupid hand, the range that calls a shove leaves you very -EV. This is tight either way but with only $48 invested, you can likely fold this one without much problem.

AAismyfriend · #10 11-30-2006, 06:55 PM

He either has AK or he has you crushed, easy fold