UB 2-4 playing a dominated Ace ... 2 hands

Point Blank · #1 10-31-2006, 01:42 AM

hand 1
6 handed ... I'm UTG1 with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
fold, I Raise, fold, BTN 3bets, fold, fold
BTN over 300HH 18/9/2.6 
FLOP ... A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I c/c

TURN ... Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I c/c

RIVER ... 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
???

hand 2
5 handed ... I'm CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, I raise, sb 3bets, bb folds, UTG folds, I call
SB over 100HH 35/14/1.84
FLOP ... A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
sb bets, I call
TURN ... 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
he bets, i call
RIVER ... 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
he bets, I ??

I really want to focus on letting my weaker aces go ...
I think hand 1 is a good spot to let go ... BTN 3bet range can't be all that wide - with the turned Queen I'm thinking my hand is complete garbage at this point (it may have given him two pair or trips - I guess I was hoping at this point for KJ but that's most unlikely) - this should have been a turn fold.

In hand two I'm not so certain at first ... but once he bets the river I'm probably not in that great of a spot

comments please

jt1 · #2 10-31-2006, 01:44 AM

hand one, i c/f the turn

hand two, i see it down. He could have a worse Ace or a big pp.

vector2 · #3 10-31-2006, 02:41 PM

Hand 1 - the only thing you can beat is JJ or TT and odds are he would've checked behind on the turn (or possibly even the flop). Letting go the turn is probably best play.

Hand 2 - I call down. Additionally, you could probably raise the flop and fold to a check-raise on the turn (or to a 3b flop and a turn donk). 100 h is a pretty small sample so...

colgin · #4 10-31-2006, 03:22 PM

Hand 1: Check-fold on the turn. Since you did not I think you should still check-fold the river.

Hand 2: This is villain-dependent and your stats on villain here is not based on too many hands. Still, I think you are ahead way more often against villain's range here and I would like to get in a raise here, preferably on theturn. Yes, you risk getting re-raised by a better Ace and folding out a worse pair, bt without a read to the contrary I expect a typical 6 max player to pay you off all the way with a worse pocket pair. If you assume that villain will three-bet pre-flop with KK-99 and AK/AQ, then there are 30 combos you are beating as opposed to 16 that you are losing to.

If you think you are up against a tougher opponent (i.e., one who can find a good fld to a riase when he has a worse hand) or the above range should skew differently (i.e., fewer underpairs that villain could be betting this way and/or more Ax hands that he might have that beat you (e.g., AJ/AT)) then a calldown would be fine.