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Old 10-29-2006, 12:36 AM
Coz Coz is offline
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Default Can I get away from a set and good odds?

Alright guys, this is the first time I have played in about 2 weeks, have been pretty busy with school. It is a 1.20/45 tourney on stars.

For this hand, when he called my flop raise I had a feeling he had a heart which is why I did not lead the turn. Is this standard? Don't really have many reads, just got moved to this table but since I came he hadn't been playing too many hands.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1340
UTG+1: t7700
MP1: t3535
CO: t3000
Hero: t4180
SB: t1848
BB: t1675

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>, SB calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t700)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t800, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t500</font>, SB calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1300)</font>, 2 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1800, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1800, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t400</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t400 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t1800

For this next hand, I had a feeling I was beat when he re-raised me but I was getting around 4-1 odds, are you folding this or calling and re-evaluating the flop. I put him on a pocket pair 8's or higher and anywhere from A9o and up.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
(Ante: t25)
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t4835
UTG+1: t2625
Hero: t3505
CO: t1948
Button: t1488
SB: t652
BB: t8225

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t475)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t600</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to t1111</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t511 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2186)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2697, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets t2222</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t2222 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t2697

Thanks for the Responses!
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:38 AM
0evg0 0evg0 is offline
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Default Re: Can I get away from a set and good odds?

hand 1 - raise or fold pf

hand 2 - fold pf without a solid read
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:41 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Can I get away from a set and good odds?

Hand 1 - push preflop. you can add 33% to your stack if you take it down here.

as played open push flop, I don't play the 1/45s but I am sure that you will get called by a lone heart very often at this level

Hand 2 - fold preflop (the first time around) KJo is garbage and you do not need to be wasting chips on this hand with your stack size/blind size
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:45 AM
cm86 cm86 is offline
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Default Re: Can I get away from a set and good odds?

First hand, meh. Most people at 1.2/45 are calling almost any flop bet with most any heart and if you decide against betting on the turn (which I can't fault you for) then the river is an easy fold.

Second hand, I would not raise KJo after a limper, but if you do, raise it to 800 (I'd just fold pf). Call the reraise, especially if you think villain will do this w/ A9o. Flop fold is standard.
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:47 AM
shaundeeb shaundeeb is offline
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Default Re: Can I get away from a set and good odds?

funny you overlimp 88 and you rase 3bb after a limper with KJo. You played them both wrong.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: Can I get away from a set and good odds?

grunch-style

1st hand
I'd raise pre-flop unless I had a read on UTG that they were prone to call everything, all the time, but even then, I still probably would, maybe 700ish. However, as a $1.20 veteran, the standard read is, yeah, they probably are. So...as played - I like your flop bet, I might go a little bit more, but not much. Turn check is fine, I think I find a fold on river.

Hand 2
Fold pre-flop.
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