NL 25 - QQ preflop question

[Yo Adrians!]

Don't have the hand converter handy, so cut me some slack here.

Hero is in the BB sitting on $46 and QQ. UTG raises to $1 - he's just joined the table, so no reads. Three callers, which is not suprising, as table has been playing very loose pre-flop. Hero re-raises to $6. UTG thinks for almost his whole time bank and pushes for another $23. Fold. Fold. Fold. Back to Hero.

Fold? Call? Why?

Comments on preflop action - should Hero have just called his bet? Re-raise too large? Too small?

Any comments would be helpful here. Thanks in advance, and have a nice day.

[BalugaWhale]

reraise is fine. Fold to the push.

UTG raise + all-in reraise = AA, KK, or Ak

do you really think he has JJ or AQ?

[Tonding]

Folding seems to be the right decision here.
Your reraise has the right size, with four other people in the pot.
You normally don't want to play queens against 4 opponents.
Good fold imo.

[CallYNotRaise06]

id like to hear a few more comments on this, are you sure this isnt being to tight/weak?

[Delphin]

I like the reraise to $6, but maybe I've been playing too much pot limit lately. I think you should fold without a read when he pushes (I usually assume AA-QQ,AK for a raise/reraise-all in).

[Yo Adrians!]

When Villaim pushes, it's safe then to assume - with no reads, anyway - that this hand means AA, KK or AK all the time, and Hero is behind two of those three hands, making it a fold? At this level, will people play AKo, AQs or perhaps JJ or TT this way?

FWIW, Hero folds and Villain shows AA. I think the real debate here, though, is that at PartyPoker, at the $25NL game, will this 'always' mean AA, KK or AKs?

What have others experienced?

[Delphin]

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When Villaim pushes, it's safe then to assume - with no reads, anyway - that this hand means AA, KK or AK all the time, and Hero is behind two of those three hands, making it a fold? At this level, will people play AKo, AQs or perhaps JJ or TT this way?

FWIW, Hero folds and Villain shows AA. I think the real debate here, though, is that at PartyPoker, at the $25NL game, will this 'always' mean AA, KK or AKs?

What have others experienced?

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Against AKo, you are still a coinflip so adding that to his range doesn't help. Adding JJ to his range and you are still a dog overall. Add TT and you are about even money. If you _know_ he will push with worse hands, then by all means call. Most won't.

[great_white_hype]

I fold, but it's a little closer than it would be at a higher level. I see JJ and AQ enough here to throw that into the mix for his range, but not enough to make a call profitable in the long run.

Peace,
Hype

[Yo Adrians!]

One final question: sub in KK sted QQ for Hero's hand. Is that an auto call every single time? I'm guessing so, but I'll let others chime in ...

[4_2_it]

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One final question: sub in KK sted QQ for Hero's hand. Is that an auto call every single time? I'm guessing so, but I'll let others chime in ...

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Let's not go there............... <font color="white"> but KK is an AUTOCALL </font>