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Old 10-20-2007, 12:11 PM
Pokerdemic Pokerdemic is offline
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Default Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

Do I cbet here? What's the bet size?

This first villain is an unremarkable 27/10/5 over 85 hands.

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MP: $37.80
CO: $58.20
BTN: $16.75
Hero (SB): $71.80
BB: $9.85
UTG: $10

UTG posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG checks, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.50</font>, CO calls $1.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 3 folds, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($16.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>,


This villain turned out to be a bit looser than 30/20/1, but he was running 30/20/1 over the 30 hands. Am I correct to think that this guys range is more likely to have an A in it?

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Hero (BB): $66.65
UTG: $9.45
CO: $53.65
BTN: $50.75
SB: $49.50

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">BTN raises to $2</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($15.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>,
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:21 PM
YanP YanP is offline
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

I think you've got to c-bet your normal ammount personally. I c-bet in 3-bet pots pretty much 100% of the time.
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

If he had a good ace he'd probably reraise you preflop.. so I doubt he has AK, AQ eh maybe but you have 2 of the Q's so it makes that much less likely, so I think unless he has KK you should be winning that pot.

I get raised almost 100% of the time when I c-bet the 2nd flop.. so I'd like to see some opinions on that one.
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Old 10-20-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

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I think you've got to c-bet your normal ammount personally. I c-bet in 3-bet pots pretty much 100% of the time.

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This is a leak. I check QQ here op. There are no overcards that hurt you and you are in a wa/wb spot out of position in a bloated pot.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

I think I check 1 and bet 2.

1 is wa/wb and a check looks nearly as scary as a bet on 1. There's no draw and villain can't float it either. Don't insta-chk, anyway. If you're going to cbet, make it a 1/2-pot size like you want them to stay in.

2 is a bet for me. Normal cbet. I don't mind if they fold pp's less than mine here because this flop is going to be impossible to go any further with oop. CO nearly always has a low to mid pp here and not an A (calls open and calls rr after open folds.)
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:11 PM
hennnerz hennnerz is offline
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

I go for $9 here
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

i think i check the first one and bet 2nd one (draws)
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

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I c-bet in 3-bet pots pretty much 100% of the time.

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This is a leak.

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i think i check the first one and bet 2nd one (draws)

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Old 10-20-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

The first one is a check. I don't mind a 1/2 psb either though. The second one you have to c-bet.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Nl 50: to cbet or not to cbet in these 3bet pots

these spots separate me from competent poker players. i always get the [censored] end of the stick in spots like this [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] but yeah i think betting out on any of these flops is -ev...i usually just c/c and try to make it to the river alive...
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