25/50 tough spot vs Lodden.. :(

Ansky · #1 10-10-2006, 07:37 AM

25/50 full ring on stars.. definitely not my usual game but there were several very weak spots in the game so I sat, unfortunately this pot was not against a fish, but Johnny Lodden. I haven't played full ring in forever though, so I might be unsure of a lot of spots. Anyway this just went down and I'm not sure what the best line is here. I had played a few spots w/ lodden and most were pretty meaningless, I doubt he has much of a read on me, just that I have been playing fairly TAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $50 BB (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($2325)
SB ($16718)
BB ($5891)
UTG ($1725)
UTG+1 ($2816)
MP1 ($5216)
Hero ($4925)
CO ($8399.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $200, 2 folds, SB calls $175, 1 fold.

Flop: ($450) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $350, SB raises to $1250

... I think calling in this spot is ok, but can be sort of transparent. I can't really think folding is good against such a hyper aggro player. Not sure if I should call, fold or shove here though.

If you advocate calling, what is your plan on the turn? About half the deck is a "bad" card here, so I'd like to hear what most ppl think is optimal.

registrar · #2 10-10-2006, 08:13 AM

Personally, I push or fold.

FWIW, in a full ring game, what's a good player's range for calling from the SB pre-flop? Personally, I'm calling with speculative hands that I can check-raise, which is why I'm tempted to push here against me.

With his stack, and yours, I'd be raising anything more than 99 pre-flop, and I wouldn't check-raise a set on that flop.

restrikt · #3 10-10-2006, 09:15 AM

Have you been making continuation bets after every time you've raised preflop?

Have you ever been pushed off those continuation bets by a raise?

If it's yes to the first question, then 75% of the time push here. If it's the second, push 100% of the time.

In this case, if he is indeed hypoagreesive, I push every time.

Klaphat · #4 10-10-2006, 09:25 AM

U sure this is Lodden? He does ussually dont play this "low" and certainly not full ring...

Ansky · #5 10-10-2006, 09:27 AM

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U sure this is Lodden? He does ussually dont play this "low" and certainly not full ring...

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If it wasn't him then it was someone else on his account, Lars-Magne.

Melchiades · #6 10-10-2006, 12:14 PM

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U sure this is Lodden? He does ussually dont play this "low" and certainly not full ring...

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Lodden plays the stars 5k from time to time.

http://www.johnnylodden.com/2006/09/...don-departure/

Bakes · #7 10-10-2006, 12:50 PM

Sorry to derail but:

At this time I have 8 k at another 25-50 nl table and is about to leave, but I’m in small blind and pick up 8-10 off- Everybody fold around to me and I push it all in. He that is in BB has seen that I am on tilt and takes ‘Time’. I tell him in the chat like: What are you thinking about I have 8-10 off suit`. After some time he call’s with his A-J for his 7k. I hit an 8 on the flop, and he doesn’t get any help. I logged off for the night after this. GG!!

Ansky · #8 10-10-2006, 04:32 PM

hmm

Requin · #9 10-10-2006, 04:36 PM

I can't see calling, but then I've never heard of Lodden and don't know just how aggro he is. He'd have to be pretty crazy to call here though.

Eagles · #10 10-10-2006, 06:36 PM

Requin,

I'm pretty sure Johnny Lodden is BadIP on other sites.