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Old 10-09-2006, 06:47 PM
Hellmouth Hellmouth is offline
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Default Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

Well here is another AA hand. This time I raised pf.

Flop: Well this is about as scary as it gets. Don't want it checked around so I bet. I call the raise expecting someone has at least a 1 flush card draw to the nuts or second nuts. Maybe I should slow down in case the flush is in.

Turn: Just trying to get to showdown. Should I raise here with such a coordinated board?

River: Just trying to get to showdown. Big pot.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.5SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds.

Results:
Final pot: 12.25BB
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

I would probably 3-bet on the flop. We are probably ahead.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

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I would probably 3-bet on the flop. We are probably ahead.

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I wasn't sure about that. I guess AA is supposed to make money pf and on the flop before draws start to come in. I thought I would raise the turn if a non-heart came out then pussed out because the board paired. Plus the board also has straight possiblities.

I wonder what our actual pot equity is here but have no way to acutally estimate it.

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Old 10-09-2006, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

I would definitely not reraise this flop. If a heart comes on the turn, our hand is useless.

I would raise the turn.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

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I would definitely not reraise this flop. If a heart comes on the turn, our hand is useless.

I would raise the turn.

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This most likely knocks out the player behind us who has not bet yet. Do we want him/his money in the pot? Are we sure that we are ahead here roughly 50% of the time still?

Does raising the turn give us the opportunity to take a free showdown if the river is a heart? (I suspect not if villian has a high heart draw)

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Old 10-09-2006, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

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I would definitely not reraise this flop. If a heart comes on the turn, our hand is useless.

I would raise the turn.

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Old 10-09-2006, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

This might be one of those times where you wait for a safe turn to raise. If it is, then I might c/c the flop, raise the turn.
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

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This might be one of those times where you wait for a safe turn to raise. If it is, then I might c/c the flop, raise the turn.

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Would you call this a safe turn?

Greg
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

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This might be one of those times where you wait for a safe turn to raise. If it is, then I might c/c the flop, raise the turn.

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Do you or do you not think it is such a time and why?
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Old 10-09-2006, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Oh lord, Another AA hand. Don\'t kick me out of the Micros.

There is a (37/47)*(36/46)=62% chance that neither the turn nor the river is a heart. Do you think we have pretty good pot equity?
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