AJ river push?

nofutures · #1 10-07-2006, 06:20 PM

I should have bet more on the flop. How often does Villain call a push with his Ax? BTW, how often do I get trapped with AA like this? never?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($10)
Button ($50)
SB ($45.35)
BB ($48.20)
UTG ($48.75)
Hero ($56.30)
MP2 ($42.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.5, 3 folds, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold.

Flop: ($3.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.5, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($9.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $7.

River: ($33.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB calls $15.

Final Pot: $63.50

Antinome · #2 10-07-2006, 06:42 PM

if he has a Jack? he calls a push like 90%.

bet more on flop, you know.

Fear the AA? like, never.

abarrenfuture · #3 10-07-2006, 06:47 PM

SB has like 28-29 left, less than pot, Id try and get it all in there. If he has a J, 88 (doesnt look likely he has this) or AK he'll pay you off. Not too many hands will call 15 but not 29 on this board IMO.

NSchandler · #4 10-07-2006, 06:49 PM

I'd raise more preflop.

Like you said, you have to bet more on flop. I'd 3-bet flop, but I can see waiting until the turn I suppose since there aren't many draws out.

Raise more on turn.

River, I don't know. Maybe $17 or $18. I don't think Ax is going to call an AI often, but I probably undersize my river bets a bit too much, so I dunno.

With how much villain liked his hand, though, there's no good reason all the money isn't in the middle by the river. After villain leads turn, he's got $35 left in his stack. You should be sizing your turn bet to try to get it all in by the river, and a raise to only $12 doesn't do it. Even bumping it up to only $15 leaves him just calling a 1/2 pot bet on the river.

matrix · #5 10-07-2006, 06:58 PM

raise more everywhere!

more preflop ($2)

pot the flop

for gawds sake don't minraise the turn make a real raise - if your bet sizes are better you can push the turn over the top of his raise without overbetting. What happens if an action killing card like a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] drops on the river???

you left $13 or so of value sitting unclaimed on the table... (if you'd increased your preflop bet another 50c and the action was the same villain would have been all-in by the river.)

Antinome · #6 10-07-2006, 07:10 PM

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(if you'd increased your preflop bet another 50c and the action was the same villain would have been all-in by the river.)

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This is Sooooo important. It makes this whole, push, don't push question totally moot.