Hero has 2nd pair lousy kicker woot

Battle_Boi · #1 10-06-2006, 03:31 AM

Hero doesnt like how this developed on the River. Hero should of bet the Flop right ?

Not at my PC atm so I cant give you reads, sb could not have been aggressive though, cause in that case I would have called. Thx for reading

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB raises, Hero folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

knockonwood · #2 10-06-2006, 03:37 AM

No, i wouldn't necesarrily bet the flop. You have middle pair with a weak kicker. If you had middle pair with a good kicker and SB bet, i would raise.

Turn i bet. River, i would fold. Not a large pot.

knockonwood · #3 10-06-2006, 03:38 AM

holy crap i can't spell.

Ampelmann · #4 10-06-2006, 04:13 AM

grunch

I don't bet the flop. I also don't bet the river.

Ampelmann · #5 10-06-2006, 04:15 AM

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If you had middle pair with a good kicker and SB bet, i would raise.

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I may be weak-tight at times, but you would really raise 2nd pair with a K on board when SB bets into 4 people on a not too draw-heavy board?

Edit: Since the pot is small this would be a pretty easy fold for me.

HouseCalls · #6 10-06-2006, 06:48 AM

Looks fine - other option ois to c/c river. Hard to know which is best without reads but c/c has the advantage of letting you see the showdown for the same price.

knockonwood · #7 10-06-2006, 06:54 AM

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If you had middle pair with a good kicker and SB bet, i would raise.

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I may be weak-tight at times, but you would really raise 2nd pair with a K on board when SB bets into 4 people on a not too draw-heavy board?

Edit: Since the pot is small this would be a pretty easy fold for me.

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yeah, four people it gets more dicey. Three handed its my default move.

nofutures · #8 10-06-2006, 07:06 AM

On the river your fold equity is practically 0%.

The turn bet is close, because the pot is only 2BB and it is a multiway pot. I would check/fold this without further bothering.

Sushiglutton · #9 10-06-2006, 07:10 AM

I would bet the flop. If u chech u are giving up the pot. If someone else bets u will be forced to fold. Turn is fine. River is ok.

Sushiglutton · #10 10-06-2006, 07:12 AM

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The turn bet is close, because the pot is only 2BB and it is a multiway pot. I would check/fold this without further bothering.

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I think this is too tight. 2BB is the expected win in 100 hands, so it's worth fighting for. Especially since we have the best hand here nearly always.