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Old 10-05-2006, 05:20 PM
mikeJ mikeJ is offline
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Default Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($594)
BB ($460.50)
UTG ($379.50)
MP ($579)
CO = (Villain) ($410)
Hero ($920.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q.
2 folds, Villain calls $6, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, Villain raises to $42, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($93) Q, 5, T (2 players)
Villain bets $84, Hero ?

Villain was a habitual limper and limped his entire range, i've played maybe 20-25 min. with him. He seems pretty loose/passive/bad. I've raised his limp 4-5 times w/ success, either winning pf or on the flop/turn.

This is the first time he's 3 bet me preflop and I don't recall him making big bets like this, but then again, he's never been in the lead preflop.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:40 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

i dont mind a fold here without more info about his limpreraises.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

Call flop. Turn's gonna suck, b/c he has about a PSB left and will most likely shove. Actually, some donks don't shove in this spot. If he does some 1/2 pot bet crap on the turn, then you can insta-fold, b/c it's clearly a value bet. If he shoves, it's a little tougher and it might be a call based on timing, and the turn card.

But you can't fold pre-flop or on the flop. If you've really been raising his limp alot, he could be getting frustrated and may decide to take a stand with JJ, 99, or AK. Sometimes, donks 3-bet random trash hands for no logical reason as well, which you obviously beat.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

hes has only 286 behind after his flop bet, shove it in.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

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hes has only 286 behind after his flop bet, shove it in.

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I think calling is better. If he's bluffing, he has a chance to continue on the turn, where he might fold to a flop push. I do think you should get it all in here given his stack size though.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

Yeah I would call on the flop...See what he does on the turn is he still make antoher strong bet without you hitting a Q or an then a fold isn't bad.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

Call flop, push a decent turn. Since you have AQ, AA is less likely. IF he has KK it sucks, but I think you gotta go with the hand.

You say he's bad. Bad players do weird stuff from time to time when they lose patience. You have sorta bullied him around, maybe this is his retarded way of responding
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

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Call flop, push a decent turn. Since you have AQ, AA is less likely. IF he has KK it sucks, but I think you gotta go with the hand.

You say he's bad. Bad players do weird stuff from time to time when they lose patience. You have sorta bullied him around, maybe this is his retarded way of responding

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calling is certainly not bad, but i find these kind of donks more likely to call a flop raise with some randon crap than if you call flop/bet turn, as the latter represents far more strength. and come on, he dosent even have 50bb left to play.
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

You are correct. I noticed he was a little short, but not how little he would have left in comparison to the pot. Push is good too, but it does have the disadvantage of letting him get away some % of the time
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Old 10-05-2006, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Stars 600NL, AQ TPTK faces big bet from pf limpreraisor.

i fold preflop, limpminiraise from a passive guy = good hand
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