Two 1/2 hands

[Trix]

I openraise 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button, player who seems loose-aggro and probably losing overall calls in sb. Irrelevant BB calls.

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 bets

I bet, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 BB

He checks, I bet ?, He raises, I 3bet ?

2) Table is down to HU with me and the guy from hand one.
He completes out of position, I raise A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], he calls.

Flop J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 SB

He check-calls my bet.

Turn 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 BB

He check-raises, I 3bet ?

[antifish225]

I would fold Hand 1 - I think you just need to let it go as you have zero show down value and are likley drawing to 3 outs....

3-bet Hand 2 - you likley have the best hand now and even if you do not you have a redraw in the flush or full

[Trix]

What hands do you put him on in both hands ?

[The DaveR]

I love hand 1 if you're going to bet the river unimproved.

Hand 2 is trivially easy I think.

[The DaveR]

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What hands do you put him on in both hands ?

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Hand 1 is obvious. Diamonds or nothing trying to blow you out of a board that likely helps no one. The flop call rather than cr 3-ways gives his hand away.

[Fianchetto]

Hand 1: This is boardering on major spew. You just have a gutshot, right?

Hand 2: Clear 3-bet on the turn.

[Paluka]

Hand 1 is spew because you have to bet the river. If you had ace high you could at least check the river and still beat a busted draw.

[Trix]

I 3-bet first hand, he capped and I folded.

He folded to the 3-bet in the second hand. Doesn´t seem like I should put much consideration into flatcalling intending to raise any river to get another bet from him as noone suggested it.
I guess it means people think there is too good a chance that he has a real hand he will go many bets with..

[milesdyson]

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I 3-bet first hand, he capped and I folded.

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seems like a bad fold. 11:1 with your gutshot + at least 2bb implied has to be enough. seems very rare that he actually has you drawing dead on this board (T3, 93, 33, 73 are all very unlikely).

[wheelz]

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I guess it means people think there is too good a chance that he has a real hand he will go many bets with..

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even if he doesn't he's probably calling your 3-bet with any [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]