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Old 09-16-2006, 08:52 PM
Eihli Eihli is offline
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Default KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

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Hero ($453.80)
BB ($544.80)
UTG ($367.60)
MP ($1283.74)
CO ($200)
Button ($195.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K. Hero posts a blind of $2. CO posts a blind of $6.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $14, BB calls $12, CO folds.

Flop: ($38) 3, 2, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $30, BB raises to $141.85

So, think of a calling range preflop for him. 22-JJ, AT-AK
That's about it right? Of those, might he make this raise with any pair? If he has a pair between 66 and JJ he doesn't want to give a loan A a chance to outdraw him, but he also wants to be able to fold if he's pushed over. But is his raise too big to be that? If he has a set, there's no flush draw he'd need to charge and he really can't put me on an OESD so whyw ould he raise that big with a set?

All-in-all, I'm confused.
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:27 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

i'd call here against an unknown. his raise isnt really that huge, its just a little more than a PSB. Turns to beware include 4, 6, and A. Clean turn = get it in there. (don't c/r here, theres too much chance he'll check behind)
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

I just pushed the flop since I didn't want 99-QQ slowing down if an overcard turned. He showed 55 and I turned a K
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

Make it way more preflop.

Full ring you'd have a decision to make. In 6-max, people are overplaying ~77+ more than enough to make this +EV.

I'll usually call here and donk the turn for ~35% of the pot, depending on stack sizes.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

Make a note.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

I usually just push this flop. I don't want to bluffed out on a scare card that doesn't hit him. Also I've found people never fold after this action. So you probably can get allin vs A8 or 77 or some such nonsense.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: KK facing a big raise on a low flop.

preflop raise is terrible
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