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Old 09-04-2006, 04:39 PM
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Default 87s line check

Villan has not done anything, havent been at table long enough. He is tight (so stats say), like 19/12/3 over small sample size. Hero has not done anything yet at this table.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $201.10
UTG+1: $205.90
CO: $59
Button: $68.10
SB: $221.90
orange: $217.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, orange calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $17</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $34</font>, SB folds, orange ...?

Do you lead this flop? Whats your plan after the raise? How do you play a blank turn, or an improved turn?
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Old 09-04-2006, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 87s line check

I would probably just call the flop raise against a TAG, but getting all in here is still fine since you have tons of outs. Smells like a set though.

edit: And I'm potting this flop every time.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:05 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: 87s line check

I'd push here, especially vs some1 i think can fold a hand
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:19 PM
Shaddux Shaddux is offline
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Default Re: 87s line check

1) I almost always lead this flop
2) I push
3) Turn doesn't matter because I'm all in
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:21 PM
samsonite2100 samsonite2100 is offline
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Default Re: 87s line check

I lead this flop and push also.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 87s line check

Yeah push sounds like the best option since you're gonna have a lot of FE against a pair like AQ and KQ
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:24 PM
tubasteve tubasteve is offline
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Default Re: 87s line check

Hmm people seem to be advocating a push...but I don't see this guy having a hand worse than AQ, and thats weighted a lot lower in his range than a set or two pair IMO. I don't really like pushing when I don't think I have FE...although our draw is pretty rockin.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:30 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: 87s line check

w/e but you need non-trivial fe to push this many chips into this size pot with a non-nut draw I think.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 87s line check

I like a push.
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:34 PM
samsonite2100 samsonite2100 is offline
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Default Re: 87s line check

Tell me if my logic is way off here--We're about 35% against sets and essentially even w/ one pair hands. Splitting the difference, let's say we're about ~42% versus villain's likely range. I can't help but think we get a fold here at least ten percent of the time.
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