AA Line Check

azm1000 · #1 08-31-2006, 12:44 AM

Villain is meh -- 32/4/5 over 40 or so hands. I'm TAG, but I'd been catching alot of cards, so I think my table image skewed LAGgy. I think I'd raised 3 of the last 5 hands, and even before this hand, I got the sense that he was getting tired of me.

How's my line? Comments on river are especially appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $81.75
CO: $105.75
Button: $73.15
SB: $109.60
BB: $63.55

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $4, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $14, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($37.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($37.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $23, CO raises to $46, Hero ?????

Paul Thomson · #2 08-31-2006, 12:46 AM

weird hand. i think you only beat a bluff but your getting good odds and i would call just to know what kind of hand a villain would play that way.

hemstock · #3 08-31-2006, 12:52 AM

Thats not a good reason to call. I would 3bet the flop cause there are many scary turn cards that will confuse me. The Q on the turn puts you behind to everything besides a flush draw. I would check/call the river

Paul Thomson · #4 08-31-2006, 12:57 AM

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Thats not a good reason to call. I would 3bet the flop cause there are many scary turn cards that will confuse me. The Q on the turn puts you behind to everything besides a flush draw. I would check/call the river

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I think calling when you have good pot odds is a GOOD reason to call. And when you throw in VERY valuable information, then I think it makes it even a better situation.

I think 3-betting the flop is bad unless you know how to get away from AA. Actually I'm not sure if I could get away from it after throwing in a 3-bet, given the stack sizes. So I like calling better on the flop.

AZplaya · #5 08-31-2006, 12:57 AM

1. Rebuy pre flop
2. 3 bet the flop, your hand is vulnerable.
3. River is tough, I'd probably call but wouldn't be happy about it. With the way this hand played out, I would prefer a check/call over a block on the river.

AZplaya · #6 08-31-2006, 01:01 AM

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I think 3-betting the flop is bad unless you know how to get away from AA.

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I disagree, our hand needs protection. People minraise with all sorts of crap in spots like this, but our hand is probably slightly ahead or toast, and I lean towards slightly ahead so I would come back over the top. Plus I despise minraises.

Paul Thomson · #7 08-31-2006, 01:03 AM

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I think 3-betting the flop is bad unless you know how to get away from AA.

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I disagree, our hand needs protection. People minraise with all sorts of crap in spots like this, but our hand is probably slightly ahead or toast, and I lean towards slightly ahead so I would come back over the top. Plus I despise minraises.

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I hear ya. But once we make a 3-bet, then we have to go all the way. So it's going to be pretty easy for the villain to play the hand from here on out.

CaucasianAsian29 · #8 08-31-2006, 01:04 AM

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1. Rebuy pre flop
2. 3 bet the flop, your hand is vulnerable.
3. River is tough, I'd probably call but wouldn't be happy about it. With the way this hand played out, I would prefer a check/call over a block on the river.

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Check/Call the river? Dont you think your often missing a ton of value c/calling on the river?

hemstock · #9 08-31-2006, 01:09 AM

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1. Rebuy pre flop
2. 3 bet the flop, your hand is vulnerable.
3. River is tough, I'd probably call but wouldn't be happy about it. With the way this hand played out, I would prefer a check/call over a block on the river.

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Check/Call the river? Dont you think your often missing a ton of value c/calling on the river?

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A flush draw is not calling and everything else is raising. So a check might induce a bluff from a busted draw and it gives us a showdown.

Paul Thomson · #10 08-31-2006, 01:15 AM

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1. Rebuy pre flop
2. 3 bet the flop, your hand is vulnerable.
3. River is tough, I'd probably call but wouldn't be happy about it. With the way this hand played out, I would prefer a check/call over a block on the river.

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Check/Call the river? Dont you think your often missing a ton of value c/calling on the river?

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A flush draw is not calling and everything else is raising. So a check might induce a bluff from a busted draw and it gives us a showdown.

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What about TJ,98,AT...do they raise the river?