Suited Connectors, Implied Odds, and You (Theory/Math)

Awesome post currently posted in SSNL. Would love to see some of the math minds here (NoahSD, A_Plus, etc.) contribute or even just comment on it.

Certainly thought this could be helpful even in the world of tournaments.

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[zoobird]

Anybody on here know what the 5/10 rule that everyone in SSNL seems to use is?

[InternetJunky]

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Anybody on here know what the 5/10 rule that everyone in SSNL seems to use is?

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FYI
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Q: I've heard other posters mentioning the 5/10 rule. What is it?

A: The 5/10 rule is an important no-limit concept that first appeared in Bob Ciaffone's excellent book, "PL & NL Poker." To quote directly from the book:

"When contemplating calling a raise because your position is good, you have a clear call if the raise is less than 5% of your stack, and a clear fold if it is more than 10%. In between those numbers, use your judgement."

It's a good rule for calling a preflop raise with a pocket pair in hopes of hitting a set. The driving force behind the concept is the implied odds in a given situation. If you get your set, but the opponent only has 5BBs after the initial raise, calling to hit the set in the first place is incorrect.


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[mornelth]

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[Soulman]

Thanks for the link, very nice read. Especially for someone new to NL cash (but decent in MTTs/SNGs).

[bgoalie35]

Its probably important to remember the 5/10 rule should apply to the effective stack in play at the time. If the raise is only 5% of your stack, but 50% of your opponent's stack, its not worth it. You make the call for the implied odds of getting the rest of your opponents stack. If the rest of his stack is not enough to merit the call, it doesn't matter how much you have left behind (and if you don't have enough left behind, it doesn't matter how much he has).

Edit: Also, thanks to Kramer for the link, very interesting thread.

[mornelth]

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Its probably important to remember the 5/10 rule should apply to the effective stack in play at the time. If the raise is only 5% of your stack, but 50% of your opponent's stack, its not worth it. You make the call for the implied odds of getting the rest of your opponents stack. If the rest of his stack is not enough to merit the call, it doesn't matter how much you have left behind (and if you don't have enough left behind, it doesn't matter how much he has).

Edit: Also, thanks to Kramer for the link, very interesting thread.

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Cliffs Notes ; figure out 5% of the SHORTER of the two stacks...

[tedtodd]

Thanks Kramer- great read and there's no way I would have spotted this otherwise.