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Old 01-01-2006, 08:29 PM
HoldenFoldem HoldenFoldem is offline
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Default Under pair with Overcard kicker..how to play this???

This comes up often. Recently i have been "tagging along" if the bets aren't too big to try to hit trips or a second pair. I'm never sure if its +EV, -EV or what ??? Comments please.


***** Hand History for Game 3297660761 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 01, 17:02:21 EDT 2006
Table Table 65278 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: TCowboy24 ( $40.50 )
Seat 3: twib1 ( $34.97 )
Seat 4: McMadman33 ( $29.90 )
Seat 5: Hynesketchup ( $24.22 )
Seat 6: RakeStar ( $5.55 )
Seat 1: Hero ( $22.50 )
RakeStar posts small blind [$0.10
Hero posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Th Ad ]
TCowboy24 raises [$0.50].
twib1 calls [$0.50].
McMadman33 folds.
Hynesketchup folds.
RakeStar folds.
Hero calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Kh, 4d ]
hero checks.with a pair of tens
TCowboy24 bets [$1].
twib1 calls [$1].
Hero calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
Hero checks.
TCowboy24 bets [$1].
twib1 calls [$1].
Hero calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
Hero checks.I have missed my second pair or trips
TCowboy24 checks.
twib1 bets [$4].
Hero folds.
TCowboy24 calls [$4].
twib1 shows [ 6d, 6c ] two pairs, nines and sixes.
TCowboy24 shows [ Ac, Kd ] two pairs, kings and nines.
TCowboy24 wins $14.85 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and nines.
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:36 PM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default Re: Under pair with Overcard kicker..how to play this???

ATo on a TK4 board with a flush draw is not a hand you want to chase OOP.

Your ace (as was the case here) will not give you a win but instead cost you some money. In other cases, it could make someone a straight.

Chasing for trips will sometimes kill your action even when you do hit it and you will lose your stack when you're up against better trips or a full house.

I wouldn't mind seeing the turn here in position as you have the ace of diamonds but again, even if a diamond falls I'm not getting too excited.
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