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Old 08-17-2006, 01:58 PM
sng-sam sng-sam is offline
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Default $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

Since I have over 10BB this fold was easier. But what bothered me was my knowledge that Villan is aware of the 10BB rule and is clearly stealing to stay alive. So I considered calling as he might be a bit weak here. But....

Villan is a highly successful multitabler. He is solid and knows his ICM. I think I already know what my answer is but I'm curious what you guys do here. Respond with your gut 1st then read my answer is in white.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1535)
UTG+1 (t2110)
CO (t1360)
Button (t4520)
Hero (t1760)
BB (t2215)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t1360 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>



<font color="white"> Villan was sippin criss.
I know that he has to have a good hand to push from CO
(SNGPT says it's not a call unless he's pushing more than top 18%).
So I gave him credit for a big enough hand for my fold.
I also have +10BB so I can wait</font>
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

the fact it's from CO
your stack/blind being large.
easy fold.
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

yup. Anyone else?

SAM
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

say you were SB and he was button. blinds at 200/400. you have
2500 w/ AT. folds to button. he pushes into you w/ like 2000. easy call.
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

Fold. If hes good ATs doesn't fare well against his range.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

Now that I see who the villian was - I call him everytime here [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

j/k this is a fold at this level.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

I think this is close, but likely a fold, not yet knowing the particular player well. I can think of good players this would be a call against and a few that this would be an insta-muck.

Even though it's from the cutoff, a good player could also recognize that none of the players yet to act are likely to call without a huge hand, so he might widen his range to some pushing hands that play "well" against monsters, slipping this into the "call" range.

However, I don't think you'd ever lose that much EV by folding this every time.
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

I think I actually pushed a little loose here possibly, I knew you and one of the other players behind were tight, so I decided pushing KQo was all right. But yeah, Like Jay said, ATs isn't faring well vs my range.
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

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I think I actually pushed a little loose here possibly, I knew you and one of the other players behind were tight, so I decided pushing KQo was all right. But yeah, Like Jay said, ATs isn't faring well vs my range.

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what was it you pushed?
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: $16 Call with ATs vs. a 2p2 Multitabler?

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I think I actually pushed a little loose here possibly, I knew you and one of the other players behind were tight, so I decided pushing KQo was all right. But yeah, Like Jay said, ATs isn't faring well vs my range.

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what was it you pushed?

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KQo
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