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Old 08-02-2006, 08:43 PM
cbloom cbloom is offline
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Default Two pair with timing tell

Villain's loose & bad. When I raised the flop he took a long time to call, then thought a bit and checked the turn, then insta-raised. Thoughts?

No Limit Hold'em Ring Game (6 max) , 4 players
Blinds : $1/$2

Stacks:
UTG : $228.93
Hero : $199
SB : $405.95
BB : $33

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero limps, SB limps, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, SB calls ($11).

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($36, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $50</font>, Hero ????
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Two pair with timing tell

i dont think i can fold this to this particular villain. i would probably call and evaluate river. i'm not really sure though
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Two pair with timing tell

I'm guessing you would fold an overpair here and bottom two isn't much stronger
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Two pair with timing tell

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I'm guessing you would fold an overpair here and bottom two isn't much stronger

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werd. He is going to fire river big toooo.
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Two pair with timing tell

Muck very quickly. He may be bad but you showed strength by raising the flop and making a decent turn bet and he still check-raised you. If he has a hand that warrants that action then it sure as hell beats bottom 2.

You wouldn't call with AJ here and your hand is no better than that. You have a bluff catcher and nothing else.

Also what is with the open limp on the button?
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:37 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Two pair with timing tell

looks like a very easy fold to me.

I presume the open limp was b/c of BB stack size?
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: Two pair with timing tell

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Also what is with the open limp on the button?

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BB was super short, I didn't want to be open raising 64s in that situation, normally I would open raise it. Damn shorties.

Anyhoo, y'all are right, this is an obvious monster from villain, he'd never take this line with anything I beat. I guess it has to be top two, a set, or a straight.

If I had top two I'd be tempted to try to get to showdown but that might be a mistake too, I think this is more likely a big monster hand.
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:29 PM
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yea thats what i meant to say lol
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