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Old 07-29-2006, 09:13 PM
lawloser lawloser is offline
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Default 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

My first hand at the table so I have absolutely no reads; I don't like getting involved until I get a feel for the table. How weak tight is my line? I checked the flop to see the action from the two villans. I was going to c/r 1st villan's weak bet, but villan 2 beat me to it. Is a 3 bet here spewing? I'm thinking it's quite possible that villan 2 had the same though process that I did.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1.00/$2.00
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $197.00
UTG+1: $198.52
CO: $66.45
Button: $131.85
SB: $519.65
HERO: $198.00

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $12</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($44, 3 players)
HERO checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $15</font>, HERO???
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Old 07-29-2006, 09:23 PM
stinkpaw stinkpaw is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

You made a large (6BB) raise PF when you could have seen the flop for free.

The flop comes with a K and is very uncoordinated.

You are OOP and check, which could easily be a c/r attempt, and you get a bet and a raise before the action gets to you.

Your opponents put you on big cards because of the PF action, a K flops, and they are both still willing to put money into the pot.

You may be way behind already, and you only have two cards that will improve your hand. Without some very specific reads, I don't see how you can call here.

But I play FR, so maybe 6max is different...
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Old 07-29-2006, 09:33 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

Raise more preflop, fold the flop. How do you think you can continue here? Does the UTG/button need to flip over their cards to show a king before you give up?
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:16 PM
lawloser lawloser is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

Your mean ArturiusX [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I did fold... I was thinking about making a play in this spot bc if I was the button I would raise villan 1 as well. I erred on the side of caution however b/c of no reads.

Should I make a CB into this flop? I thought it would be better to see how the action went before commiting anymore chips. Is this too weak?
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:30 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

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You made a large (6BB) raise PF when you could have seen the flop for free.


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ROFL

raise more preflop next time, checking here (in 6max or full ring) is horrible
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

I'd lead flop for $35 and shut down after that.

Raise more preflop
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:24 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Q-Q on K high flop vs. 2 unknowns

C-bet is opponent dependant OOP, normally I wouldnt though.
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