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07-23-2006, 10:51 PM
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turn play..... x2
live $100,000-$200,000 (minus three zero's)
quintessential mid twenties grinder limps in EP i raise button with black jacks blinds fold, quintessential three bets, i call (how close?) flop 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] bet, i raise, call turn 10x rb bet, i raise, he three bets, i <sigh> and call because i've not been to showdown with him yet and am getting there with this hand. river J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he bets, i raise, he three bets, i 4 bet (no cap) he calls the 4 bet. standard turn action? an orbit later.... i limp UTG+1 Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] MP raises Button calls blinds fold I put out two more bets and the dealer doesn't announce it and long story short everyone now knows i was going to three bet but i don't get to. flop is a seven high rainbow i bet, call, call turn A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] what line is worst, what line is best? MP is decent, button sucks. 
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#3
07-23-2006, 11:32 PM
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Re: turn play..... x2
I like it, he could have A-K.
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#4
07-24-2006, 12:59 AM
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Re: turn play..... x2
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live $100,000-$200,000 (minus three zero's) quintessential mid twenties grinder limps in EP i raise button with black jacks blinds fold, quintessential three bets, i call (how close?) flop 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] bet, i raise, call turn 10x rb bet, i raise, he three bets, i <sigh> and call because i've not been to showdown with him yet and am getting there with this hand. river J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he bets, i raise, he three bets, i 4 bet (no cap) he calls the 4 bet. standard turn action? [/ QUOTE ]im gonna be as nice as possible, but are u retarded?
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#5
07-24-2006, 05:08 AM
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Re: turn play..... x2
hand one is poor IMO... what do we think a grinder @ the 1/2 (if there is such a term 4 these levels) is limp/rr w/, and then bet/calling the flop and betting the turn again w/.... best case scenario 4 u on the turn is that u just got 2 outed and have 2 outs going 2 the river... worst case is that u were already behind and had 2 outs going 2 the river.... just calldown on that turn
hand 2, why r we limping QQ utg, what's wrong w/ an open raise.... as played, I might c/r it, might bet/3 bet, depends on ur image.... I doubt I'm gonna bet/fold... I would not limp it utg though
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#6
07-24-2006, 09:04 AM
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Re: turn play..... x2
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[ QUOTE ] live $100,000-$200,000 (minus three zero's) quintessential mid twenties grinder limps in EP i raise button with black jacks blinds fold, quintessential three bets, i call (how close?) flop 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] bet, i raise, call turn 10x rb bet, i raise, he three bets, i <sigh> and call because i've not been to showdown with him yet and am getting there with this hand. river J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he bets, i raise, he three bets, i 4 bet (no cap) he calls the 4 bet. standard turn action? [/ QUOTE ]im gonna be as nice as possible, but are u retarded? [/ QUOTE ] keep keepin it real homie.
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#8
07-24-2006, 11:07 AM
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Re: turn play..... x2
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[ QUOTE ] live $100,000-$200,000 (minus three zero's) quintessential mid twenties grinder limps in EP i raise button with black jacks blinds fold, quintessential three bets, i call (how close?) flop 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] bet, i raise, call turn 10x rb bet, i raise, he three bets, i <sigh> and call because i've not been to showdown with him yet and am getting there with this hand. river J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he bets, i raise, he three bets, i 4 bet (no cap) he calls the 4 bet. standard turn action? [/ QUOTE ]im gonna be as nice as possible, but are u retarded? [/ QUOTE ] Special.
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#10
07-24-2006, 11:37 AM
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Re: turn play..... x2
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are u reccomending a flat call on the turn when he leads? [/ QUOTE ] Did you not even consider a fold? The pot is almost 6BB before the turn, so calling down (minimum money to showdown) gives pot odds ~4:1. Do you really think you are good here that often? If he does lrr with non-monster hands, then I guess the calldown is reasonable, but in that case the flop raise is pointless. The turn raise/call is serious spew.
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