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Old 07-16-2006, 12:56 AM
MikeMcQ1 MikeMcQ1 is offline
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Default (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

Can you help me assign a range for this player?
He is a very profitable player I've played a ton against at the 60s. But here is a note:
"L4 pushed 13bb UTG with A9o"
One thing to consider is BB was a nutcase/loose canon.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1090)
UTG+1 (t1445)
MP1 (t1240)
CO (t5420)
Button (t1095)
Hero (t1265)
BB (t1945)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t1095 (All-in)</font>, Hero...
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

He should be pushing a very wide range with those chip stacks. He probably knows this if he's profitable. Not really sure how he's profitable if he pushed 13bb utg with A9o, but anyways, I'd probably call if the big blind is loose as you say, since that takes away from your fold equity in later hands and you should be ahead of button's range.
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

I'd call.
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Old 07-16-2006, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

Presto
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Old 07-16-2006, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

call it
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Old 07-16-2006, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

Would everyone still call if the BB was 100 instead of 150?
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Old 07-16-2006, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

when villain pushed a9 utg, was it 4-handed or 9? it matters a lot more how far off the button than whether he was 1st to act. i'd probably fold here. with no read on bb i would call, but you hate to have the regular pushing tighter and the maniac lurking to overcall KJ.
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Old 07-16-2006, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

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when villain pushed a9 utg, was it 4-handed or 9? it matters a lot more how far off the button than whether he was 1st to act. i'd probably fold here. with no read on bb i would call, but you hate to have the regular pushing tighter and the maniac lurking to overcall KJ.

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I haven't run this, but I would imagine folding would be very very bad.
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Old 07-16-2006, 08:46 PM
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call.
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Old 07-16-2006, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: (114) Call a shove w/ 66 vs a regular?

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when villain pushed a9 utg, was it 4-handed or 9? it matters a lot more how far off the button than whether he was 1st to act. i'd probably fold here. with no read on bb i would call, but you hate to have the regular pushing tighter and the maniac lurking to overcall KJ.

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I haven't run this, but I would imagine folding would be very very bad.

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This range for villain is breakeven: 22+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+

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you hate to have the regular pushing tighter and the maniac lurking to overcall KJ.

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Schwza's comment here is exactly why I questioned if I should call. At gametime, I was making an assumption that *because* the BB was a loose cannon, button's range would be tighter, *and* I was worried about a call from the BB. Villain's push with A9o was UTG while 6 or 7 handed, I remember it because it really surprised me from this player at the time.

So it seems to me most of you here think villain is pushing Ax, QJ, even JTs here?
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