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Old 07-13-2006, 02:07 AM
whittiphil whittiphil is offline
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Default ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

I'm newish to SNGs, this is an any2 push right?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2795)
Button (t2550)
SB (t6820)
BB (t1335)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t2770 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t2570, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t6040) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


Turn: (t6040) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t6040) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

Absolutely not. The nightmare scenarios resulting from a push here (SB calling and BB folding) is the reason not to do this.

You have a player with a wee more than 3xBB in the BB this hand, which means that chances are, if neither you nor button push, SB will be pushing a huge range on him, which will likely result in a showdown. Even if things do not go according to that plan and BB folds, he's still left with t910, while you're sitting with t2370 after posting. You're doing fine.

Remember: SNGs are about survival. Get in the money when there is a vulnerable player on the bubble.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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To be totally candid and serious, it's really quite bad. You are allowing the possibility of placing ITM to escape you when chances are other players at the table will take care of that for you without A) any effort on your part or B) allowing the possibility of SB sucking out on you or calling w/ a better hand.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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To be totally candid and serious, it's really quite bad. You are allowing the possibility of placing ITM to escape you when chances are other players at the table will take care of that for you without A) any effort on your part or B) allowing the possibility of SB sucking out on you or calling w/ a better hand.

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Hahah that's fine. I just knew I was supposed to be aggressive on the bubble. I guess you don't have to be aggressive when someone is very likely to bust soon.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

Easy fold. There is more to push/fold play than "I have x stack and my hand is y." You have to consider other things like position and stacks as well.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

Always analyze all of the stacks before you just look down at your hand/stack in relation to the blinds &amp; push away. Easy fold.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

I wouldnt fold nearly any two in that spot. Youll still have a great deal of FE against Button and SB will be (should be) pushing 100%.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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Here's my Favorite General Bubble guide...


To be totally candid and serious, it's really quite bad. You are allowing the possibility of placing ITM to escape you when chances are other players at the table will take care of that for you without A) any effort on your part or B) allowing the possibility of SB sucking out on you or calling w/ a better hand.

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Hahah that's fine. I just knew I was supposed to be aggressive on the bubble. I guess you don't have to be aggressive when someone is very likely to bust soon.

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Here's my favorite General Bubble Play guide.
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