50 NL Full Ring: Pocket Eights Help!

bxb · #1 07-12-2006, 08:38 PM

I'm sure I did something wrong here cuz playing this passive seems bad. CO was very tight like 10/4 and MP2 was very loose like 40/10.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($42.52)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($53.80)
UTG ($49.49)
UTG+1 ($31.35)
MP1 ($45.80)
MP2 ($42.35)
Hero ($49.10)
CO ($47.86)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO raises to $3, 3 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3, CO calls $3.

River: ($19.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 bets $3, Hero calls $3, CO folds.

Final Pot: $25.25

cata1yst · #2 07-12-2006, 08:42 PM

Yea that isn't very good. I would be betting $10 on this flop and folding to a raise. As played, I am raising to $13-14 on turn.

bxb · #3 07-13-2006, 10:37 AM

I think my thinking on the flop was that the CO was super tight so it was likely that he had an overpair. I was mainly intending on calling preflop for set value. So when I didn't get my set, I was just gonna c/f.

I guess it would have made more sense for me to raise the turn though.

Ben Young · #4 07-13-2006, 10:42 AM

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Yea that isn't very good. I would be betting $10 on this flop and folding to a raise. As played, I am raising to $13-14 on turn.

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I bet more like $8 on the flop, and fold to a raise. If they actually bet a decent amt on the turn or river, I am FOLDING

ChipStorm · #5 07-13-2006, 10:46 AM

Given your read on the two villains, you should have raised preflop to isolate MP2.

CO raised on overs, called the turn with good odds and 6 outs, and folded river when he missed. You likely could have folded out a pretty big chunk of his range preflop with a good raise, then bashed MP2 on the flop.

As played, given your reads, I'd bet the flop hoping CO is on overs, and be done with it after that.

I think turn and river calldown are OK; hard to tell where you stand at that point, but you're getting nice odds.

Johan L · #6 07-13-2006, 10:51 AM

I like this line. COs flop check is AK all the time given his stats MP2 is not very strong A high, 65 or some random PP makes sense.
On the river the board gets ultra ugly and I would say Call/Fold is neutral.

This pot can probably be won with a turn raise but 88 has showdown value here and I dont find calling stupid.