AA v lag flop and turn? 10/20

[yuji]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($3091)
SB ($2082)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($3086)
MP ($3138)
CO ($6372.43)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A. SB posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls $20, MP calls $20, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $140</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $120, UTG folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($330) J, 7, Q [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]BB bets $200</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $600</font>, BB calls $400.

Whats my play on the turn if blank comes? If queen comes? Do u think he ever has aq right here? what if he donks? hes a laggy, he cr me earlier on a 55 board with i had kk and he bet turn and check fold the river to a small bet. Ive ben pretty loose but nothing crazy. Sorry if post is a little disorganize 1st time posting. Please offer any suggestions on how i can improve posts to get more responses as i am new to two plus two.

[cs3]

I wont ruin this thread by risking giving you bad advice about how to play the hand, but i can help a little with the second part.

You'll get more/better responses if you post a read + a little recent history youve had with the villain. Maybe even who the villain is if he is a well known regular in that game. And how have you beeen playing? etc etc...

[creedofhubris]

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($3091)
SB ($2082)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($3086)
MP ($3138)
CO ($6372.43)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A. SB posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls $20, MP calls $20, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $140</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $120, UTG folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($330) J, 7, Q [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]BB bets $200</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $600</font>, BB calls $400.

Whats my play on the turn if blank comes? If queen comes? Do u think he ever has aq right here? what if he donks? hes a laggy, he cr me earlier on a 55 board with i had kk and he bet turn and check fold the river to a small bet. Ive ben pretty loose but nothing crazy. Sorry if post is a little disorganize 1st time posting. Please offer any suggestions on how i can improve posts to get more responses as i am new to two plus two.

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your preflop raise is too big for most games.

i would expect to be ahead most of the time on the flop if i were you.

[Leptyne]

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($3091)
SB ($2082)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($3086)
MP ($3138)
CO ($6372.43)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A. SB posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls $20, MP calls $20, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $140</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $120, UTG folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($330) J, 7, Q [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]BB bets $200</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $600</font>, BB calls $400.

Whats my play on the turn if blank comes? If queen comes? Do u think he ever has aq right here? what if he donks? hes a laggy, he cr me earlier on a 55 board with i had kk and he bet turn and check fold the river to a small bet. Ive ben pretty loose but nothing crazy. Sorry if post is a little disorganize 1st time posting. Please offer any suggestions on how i can improve posts to get more responses as i am new to two plus two.

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your preflop raise is too big for most games.

i would expect to be ahead most of the time on the flop if i were you.

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This looks like a standard pot-sized raise according to the Daliman formula.

Daliman
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You're not raising enough with your premium hands, and giving too much odds to run you down.

Remember this as your raising formula preflop at all times, unless you are specifically trapping/milking, or are putting in more than 4)5 of your stack by rasising, whereby you may as well push, unless you specifically want action;

3xBB + 2x limpers or raisers total=proper raise size.

Therefore, on your fateful KK hand, 3xBB =60 + 5 limpers for 20 equaling 100 total, so 100x2= 200

200+60=260 proper raise size

If A2 wants to call 240 more, god bless 'em.

But also, once that flop hits, NOW your pot sized bet with two limpers is all in. Much tougher call with a gutshot and one overcard only, but I 've seen way worse.

This is also a quick and dirty way to get approximately pot sized raises preflop, always confusing for me before.
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[fsuplayer]

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according to the Daliman formula.


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WTF?

[Daliman]

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according to the Daliman formula.


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WTF?

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Nothing major. It's just a quick-and-dirty way to figure an approximately pot sized bet for newbies or people who can't do so properly, (like me). I have a hard time believing I was the first to come up with this, but I seem to get credited with it a fair amount.

Please tell me though that this isn't a "But he's no good at poker" WTF.

[Kirkrrr]

I'd expect to be good on the flop usually. Half-pot turn, hopefully get the rest in on the river. I'm done with the hand if I see another Q.

Kirk