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Old 11-19-2005, 08:34 AM
cardcore cardcore is offline
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Default (109s) 850 SNGs Stats - My Strategy

Hi,

excuse my english, I'll try my best.

I just completed 850 109s sngs and got some questions about my stats and my gameplay. I'm 8-tabling on PartyPoker and don't have rakeback (now I have, but these sngs were played without)

Here are my stats:

# SnGs 847
Total Buyin $92,323.00
Total Winnings $106,483.00

Profit $14,160.00

ITM % 35.18%
ROI % 15.34%

ITM

1st 43.96%
2nd 25.84%
3rd 29.87%

Headsup
1st 62.98%
2nd 37.02%

Overall

1st 15.47%
2nd 9.09%
3rd 10.51%
4th 9.56%
5th 12.04%
6th 11.45%
7th 11.69%
8th 8.85%
9th 6.38%
10th 4.96%

Average Placement 4.92
Rake/Vig $7,623.00

Bubble to ITM 78.57%
Bubble +/- % 3.57%

Do you see anything significant that is noticeable?

Well, I'll try to write about my "GamePlay":`
10/15 - 25/50
- I play weak-tight, waiting for Monsters and try to doubleup early. I limp with a lot of pocketpairs (22-TT) and call raises (up to 3 x BB @ 10/15 & 15/30 and up to 2 x BB @ 25/50) with them. LEAK?
- I limp often with AQo in EP/EMP (openraise in LMP/LP) and limp AJo, KQo in MP/LP. LEAK?
- Postflop I don't make a lot of moves. When I raised preflop and do a standard continuation bet. When my opponent calls and I didn't hit I almost always give up the pot and check-fold.
middle: (50-100 - 100/200)
- I'm superaggressive and push allin with a lot of Hands in CO/BUTTON/SB when I have < 8BB. When it's SB vs BB I also push with total crap like 93o, J2 just to take the blinds.
late (150/300+)
- When I have more than 10BB I'm a Rock and
and I seldom steal the blinds
- With 4 or 5 people left I'm a maniac and push a lot of hands to get a good chiplead for ITM or headsup.
- ITM & Headsup I'm also very aggressive with mediocre Hands.

Please help me [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] What are my leaks?
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:33 AM
Bob Bryant Bob Bryant is offline
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Not too sure about being a rock at the upper blind levels. No sense in losing thousands of chips not trying to steal the blinds. You have a big stack, play it and make it bigger!
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: (109s) 850 SNGs Stats - My Strategy

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I just completed 850 109s...I'm 8-tabling on PartyPoker
Here are my stats:

ITM % 35.18%
ROI % 15.34%


1st 15.47%


10/15 - 25/50
- I play weak-tight, waiting for Monsters and try to doubleup early. I limp with a lot of pocketpairs (22-TT)and call raises (up to 3 x BB @ 10/15 & 15/30 and up to 2 x BB @ 25/50) with them. LEAK?

- Postflop I don't make a lot of moves. When I raised preflop and do a standard continuation bet. When my opponent calls and I didn't hit I almost always give up the pot and check-fold.

late (150/300+)
- When I have more than 10BB I'm a Rock and
and I seldom steal the blinds


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These are the parts of your post that stood out to me.

35% ITM with a 15% ROI is an aberration. The 35% ITM is real... but the ROI is not.

Playing weak-tight, making routine c-bets, and always giving up when you miss is bad poker. I doubt that you needed somebody to tell you that.

Your first place percentage is unsustainable at the 109s.

If you seldom steal the blinds when they are 150/300 and you are the big stack, it's hard to imagine what kind of heater you must be on with your coin flips to have a 16% 1st place percentage even though you play this portion of the game incorrectly.

It looks like you have been playing solid poker with a few major tactical leaks both early and late. That game can kill the 800-chip SNGs, but you are running very hot to make any money at the 109s this way. You are likely to make more money from rakeback over your next 850 than you make playing.

It's also possible that the fundamental theorum of poker and all ICM-based strategy adjustments to large blinds are so flawed in their application to SNGs that you are actually playing better than everybody else on this forum. You should probably keep doing exactly what you are doing and play another 1000 $109s. If your ROI and 1st place percentages stay that high... you will be able to make a lot of money teaching everybody else how to do what you do. It would certainly make this place more interesting.

Irieguy
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:24 PM
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It looks like you have been playing solid poker with a few major tactical leaks both early and late. That game can kill the 800-chip SNGs, but you are running very hot to make any money at the 109s this way. You are likely to make more money from rakeback over your next 850 than you make playing.

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So much skepticism! Are you trying to put the Irie curse on him as well?
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:48 PM
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assuming this is cardcoreNET hes a winning player not at 15% ROI but def more than rakeback.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:15 PM
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Thanks for the answers,

Yes, my screenname is cardcoreNET (well, I changed it with this posting [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

Irieguy, what do you mean by "not real" ROI, do you think I faked it or it's just not my "real" ROI. I'm keeping track of my sngs with my own excel sheet and I'm 100% sure I didn't miss any "out of the money" SNGs.

Well, I think you are right. My strategy is not optimal and that's the reason why I posted this.

The strategy I posted isn't my "full" strategy, I just didn't know how to describe it. Of course I'm stealing blinds in late level, but not with total crap and only in position when there are no limpers.

I think you are right and my "real" ROI is somewhere in the range of 10%.

Irieguy, would be nice if you could look into some of my hh's.

Best Regards,
Sebastian
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:28 PM
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He's saying you ran hot and your ROI will experience regression to the mean.
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:32 PM
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Irieguy, what do you mean by "not real" ROI, do you think I faked it or it's just not my "real" ROI.

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He's not doubting if your ROI was 15% over the last 850 SNGs. He is doubting that your true ROI is 15%. For example, my ROI over my last 155 $55s is -1%. My ROI over the 195 before that was 60%. Neither of these is my true ROI.

The consensus seems to be that playing a strategy like you described is not optimal and will not beat these games by a substantive amount. You have to find more areas to "play poker" and accumulate chips.

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Irieguy, would be nice if you could look into some of my hh's.

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Irie, it would be nice if you could look at a bunch of my HH as well [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-19-2005, 03:33 PM
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Okay, I get it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

In fact I played the first 600 SNGs with a ROI of about 25% and then had an ugly ugly cooler.
I'll play 850 more SNGs and then post my stats again =)
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Old 11-19-2005, 04:50 PM
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Thanks for the answers,

Yes, my screenname is cardcoreNET (well, I changed it with this posting [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

Irieguy, what do you mean by "not real" ROI, do you think I faked it or it's just not my "real" ROI. I'm keeping track of my sngs with my own excel sheet and I'm 100% sure I didn't miss any "out of the money" SNGs.

Well, I think you are right. My strategy is not optimal and that's the reason why I posted this.

The strategy I posted isn't my "full" strategy, I just didn't know how to describe it. Of course I'm stealing blinds in late level, but not with total crap and only in position when there are no limpers.

I think you are right and my "real" ROI is somewhere in the range of 10%.

Irieguy, would be nice if you could look into some of my hh's.

Best Regards,
Sebastian

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No, i'm sure you are playing well and did not mean to imply that you weren't being truthful.

Just like I've explained a million times, though, people that post their results are running hot and are never as good as they think. It's nothing personal, it's just the way it is. Also, I don't know anybody sustaining a 1st place win percentage of >14% and I would wager that I know a few of the top 10 $109 players out there.

So, please post your continued success in 6 months because it would be very interesting. Otherwise, you are just one of 98496759234038957384752903847503957 players in the last year posting unrealistic results and then disappearing.

As far as looking at your HHs, it's just a matter of not having enough time. I'm happy to do that in exchange for my hourly earn rate at either of my two jobs. That would almost certainly not be worth it for you.

Irieguy
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