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Old 06-29-2006, 11:55 PM
RIDGE45 RIDGE45 is offline
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Default JJ - Two Flop folds

<font color="blue">Just need some reassurance that my lines are correct in these two hands, and that I have the right reasoning. Feel free to critique... </font>

<font color="blue"> Hand 1: No reads. Is there any point in betting into this guy? What is he calling with that I'm beating? If I call, the only card I will like to see is a 10, even a J wouldn't feel so great...Standard C/F?</font>

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.35
Button: $6.85
SB: $18.75
RIDGE: $23.45

Pre-flop: (4 players) RIDGE is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">RIDGE raises to $1.6</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.45, 2 players)
RIDGE checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $3</font>, RIDGE folds.


<font color="blue"> Hand 2: No reads. In a multiway pot should I even be looking to c-bet with an underpair here? What looks like a good line. Call, raise, fold? Plan for the rest of hand if calling/raising?? </font>

<font color="blue">Raising will get rid of hands that I beat
If I call what is my turn plan
Folding seems a little weak...</font>

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $58.95
Button: $15.00
SB: $23.50
RIDGE: $25.00

Pre-flop: (4 players) RIDGE is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">RIDGE raises to $1.35</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.05, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $3</font>, RIDGE folds, UTG calls.

Thanks,

[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]RIDGE[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Two Flop folds

Hand 1

This is just a god awful spot. Its one of those cases in which weak tight &gt; strong broke. Your line is fine.

Hand 2

Standard fold. If SB checks you should C-bet for sure.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Two Flop folds

Why should I c-bet for sure if SB checks? Button is still yet to act...
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Two Flop folds

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Why should I c-bet for sure if SB checks? Button is still yet to act...

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1. You will often have the best hand so you want to charge drawing hands.

2. By checking you are setting yourself to be bluffed out by weaker hands and/or total bluffs.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Two Flop folds

Just wanted your reasoning...I totally agree.

Other than that, these two hands pretty standard?
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Two Flop folds

I lead hand one, like, 100% of the time. Often he wont have connected either. If he calls, then check/fold, or spike a 10.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: JJ - Two Flop folds

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I lead hand one, like, 100% of the time. Often he wont have connected either. If he calls, then check/fold, or spike a 10.

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I think this is ok against a normal stack but a shortstack calls/raises the flop to often (imo).
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