Buy-in as the short stack? How to dissuade....

[Nez477]

So I have some friends who have been playing a home game for a while and I'm going to host it this weekend.

The game: .05/.10 NL. So it's just a good time kinf of game.

HOWEVER. Every player buys in for $5 dollars. Normal I guess. But the strange wierd stupid thing they do is that if you go broke the only way you can buy back in is 'Buying in as the short stack'. For example, you lose and someone has just $0.80, that was the maximum you could buy back in for.

This is dumb and kind of frustrating and I have said that if I'm hosting, that this is not going to be the rule, but they insist this is the best way to play.

I know this is a silly stupid argument to be having, but how can I convince them that it's a stupid rule? I'm the only one who plays poker online (more than just a casual player) or really plays at all other than the home game.

Thanks for help.

Brad

[SheridanCat]

What is the rationale for this rule?

It hurts the stuck guy because he's going to feel he can't get unstuck with such a little stack. And it hurts the winning players because if that guy is a donator, they're not going to be able to tap him again.

I would also think this might kill action because who wants to chance going broke and being able to only rebuy for $1 or so.

[Annorax]

That's one of the dumbest rules I've ever seen.

[Lottery Larry]

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The game: .05/.10 NL. So it's just a good time kinf of game.

HOWEVER. Every player buys in for $5 dollars. Normal I guess. But the strange wierd stupid thing they do is that if you go broke the only way you can buy back in is 'Buying in as the short stack'. For example, you lose and someone has just $0.80, that was the maximum you could buy back in for.

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Ask them these questions:

If someone just busted you out recently, and has $15 stack as a result.... and you get dealt Aces, do you REALLY want a $1 cap on your buy-in?

If you were in a rebuy tourney with T1000 stacks, and busted out, do you think it would be fair that you could only buy in for T75?


It sounds to me as if they've taken "fear of losing it back" to an extreme. I've never heard of such a thing. Personally, I would refuse to play and insist on a limit game instead.

[Nez477]

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That's one of the dumbest rules I've ever seen.

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I KNOW. And the fact that I can't get them to see that is so frustrating.

The main guy I've been arguing with is using this example:

(verbatim) "Well fine, I'm going to buy in for $50 and just go all-in every hand. Would that be fair?"

My response was "That would be bad poker, and also wouldn't be very much fun."

He says "See? It's not fair to let someone buy in for more than the shortstack."

*sigh*

Brad

[Lottery Larry]

What the hell does "fair" have to do with it?

And why wouldn't it be fun? Watching his head explode when he eventually gets felted, after winning countless 15 cent pots while pushing 300x the pot, would be a LOT of fun... or, at least, I'd be MAKING a lot of fun... of him.

[Khabbi]

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That's one of the dumbest rules I've ever seen.

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I KNOW. And the fact that I can't get them to see that is so frustrating.

The main guy I've been arguing with is using this example:

(verbatim) "Well fine, I'm going to buy in for $50 and just go all-in every hand. Would that be fair?"

My response was "That would be bad poker, and also wouldn't be very much fun."

He says "See? It's not fair to let someone buy in for more than the shortstack."

*sigh*

Brad

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I'd be willing to take him up on that bet. I'll put my $5 or $10 against his $50 with him going all-in on every hand any day.

If I lost my first buy-in, I'd be sure to re-buy and keep on taking the best of it every time he was all-in.

His logic is screwed, and if you can't reason with these guys I wouldn't play there. That rule makes no sense and his "counter argument" is even weaker.

[Mr. Orange]

Find a new game. This is the dumbest rule I've ever heard of.

[Khabbi]

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The game: .05/.10 NL. So it's just a good time kinf of game.

HOWEVER. Every player buys in for $5 dollars. Normal I guess.

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This isn't even normal, this only gives you 50BB to play with. If you get invovled in any big hand, you're probably pot committed by the turn.

100BB is standard, so you guys should be buying in with $10. And I know you know this part already, but you should be able to reload to the full $10 at any time you want. So if you get down to $5, you can buy another $5 to get you back to the full buy-in.

[Richter]

I just wouln't play there.

Every game should have a set min/max buy-in but it should not have anything to do with current stack sizes. this game does not sound fun at all.