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Old 05-30-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Bottom set 200BBs deep, board goes bad

BB is a huge fish (42/27/4 or so), very aggro, and he doesn't like me one bit. His range preflop is any two cards, and he'd probably checkraise me on this flop with any pair/draw/possibly a bluff. I felt really lost after the flop. It sucks to get checkraised on the turn when the flush draw is completed, but it's probably worse to let a fourth heart fall for free. Then by the river he makes a really weak bet and I'm getting ridiculous odds to call with my low flush. I thought about pushing the river, but was confused and decided not to.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed)

Button ($910.30)
SB ($950)
BB ($2710.31)
Hero ($1996)
MP ($1457.13)
CO ($1415)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $330</font>, BB calls $210.

Turn: ($735) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $445</font>, BB calls $445.

River: ($1625) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $333</font>, Hero calls $333.

Final Pot: $2291
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Bottom set 200BBs deep, board goes bad

i think i 3bet the flop a little harder
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Bottom set 200BBs deep, board goes bad

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i think i 3bet the flop a little harder

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Yea I usually would, against this opponent my goal was to make it as easy/successful as possible to get all the chips in, and by 3-betting the flop a little lighter than usual I thought I could get him to stick around with top pair and 1/2-pot turn/river to get it all in.
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Old 05-30-2006, 05:41 PM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
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Default Re: Bottom set 200BBs deep, board goes bad

looks good to me. would have been nice if that river paired the board...

river push would be very bad.
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Old 05-30-2006, 05:56 PM
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you know what I'm going to say about the turn. and I think flop 3bet is way too light if you are going to pay off like an ATM.
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:07 PM
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you know what I'm going to say about the turn. and I think flop 3bet is way too light if you are going to pay off like an ATM.

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WTF??
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:11 PM
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you know what I'm going to say about the turn. and I think flop 3bet is way too light if you are going to pay off like an ATM.

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WTF??

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we charge him $220 in to pot of $730 and then pay off another $800 or so when he hits. yes I think its bad.

I dont see how you put him on tp type hand instead of flush draw just from flop action.

I also don't see why you wouldn't check behind turn but I've argued about how stupid it is to worry about a 4th flush card often enough to not want to rehash it again.
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:30 PM
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you know what I'm going to say about the turn. and I think flop 3bet is way too light if you are going to pay off like an ATM.

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WTF??

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we charge him $220 in to pot of $730 and then pay off another $800 or so when he hits. yes I think its bad.

I dont see how you put him on tp type hand instead of flush draw just from flop action.

I also don't see why you wouldn't check behind turn but I've argued about how stupid it is to worry about a 4th flush card often enough to not want to rehash it again.

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Sorry I haven't read anything you've posted about a 4th flush card, do you have a link?

I don't know if you read the description of the player. His hand range is a lot wider than a flush draw (which he did not have).
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Old 05-30-2006, 06:33 PM
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Sorry I haven't read anything you've posted about a 4th flush card, do you have a link?

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What? You mean you don't every strategy post that master amoeba has ever made categorically archived?
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Old 05-30-2006, 07:00 PM
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I think you played this hand fine.
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