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Old 05-30-2006, 08:22 AM
DXX DXX is offline
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Default Is the pot too big to lay this down?

UTG is a retard. Button is unknown

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG ($86.78)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($50.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO ($5.32)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($67.10)</font>
SB ($64.80)
BB ($68.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, CO calls $5.32 (All-In), Button calls $5.32, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.82, Hero calls $2.32.

Flop: ($22.03) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, Button calls $61.78 (All-In), UTG calls $56.78, Hero...?
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:29 AM
Fallen Hero Fallen Hero is offline
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

If you can reraise pf (I don't think you can) then you have to.

I don't see how you can call the flop.
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

no i can't reraise pf. Big mistake not going to the effort to type in $2.50 rather than going for $3

so basically there's 5+15+50+50 = $120 sitting in the middle for me to possibly win if i make a $30 call

Do I need better than 4:1 to make this call?
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

Just reraise all in PF so you don't have this problem. I probably fold the flop here because I suck.
edit: oh you couldn't reraise allin? oh that SUCKS! I don't have a clue how to play this flop [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

Button has a big hand and you have 2 outs. I think this is a fold.
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:59 AM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

No way I'm folding his. UTG is a retard so no reason to think he can beat 1 pair. Button may have a draw. Button may also have KK or QQ. If you're against 2 pair you have a reasonable amount of outs. Getting 4:1, I instacall.
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

It would be impossible for me to fold here expecting everyone to have drawing hands.
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

what do u guys think of my raise to $15 on the flop?
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

Given all the action, and the board, i think fold is a really good option here.
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: Is the pot too big to lay this down?

I think you have to be beat here, with all the action.
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