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Old 05-24-2006, 03:54 PM
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Default 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

Note- I'm relatively inexperienced at 10 handed limit ring games.

I've only been at the table for an orbit and UTG+1 hasn't been very active.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

How often (if ever) should I be getting away from this hand on the turn or river? How tight does villian have to be?
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

you played it fine.
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Old 05-25-2006, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

standerd. If the player is a psyco you can raise it once on the turn, but unless you had an iron read, you aint folding and you could easily be behind, so just get to the river as cheap as posible.
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Old 05-25-2006, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

Especially vs an unknown there is no way to fold this turn. If you are behind his likely holdings are:

KJ vs which you have 3 outs to tie
AT vs which you have 6 outs to win
QT vs which you have 8 outs to win

He also may be semi-bluffing a diamond flush with A9 or A8 which you are likely to win

I'm just going by hands a reasonable player may have limped with UTG+1. You can't completely discount a set of 2s or Ts but they're not as likely.

On the river you are now getting over 10:1 and that's enough of a chance that all but the tightest most passive player going is bluffing.

So yeah, your play looks fine to me.
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Old 05-25-2006, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

Agreed. You can't fold that turn or river.

KJ - 3 outs to tie.
AT - 10 outs to win.
QT - 12 outs to win.
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

[ QUOTE ]
Agreed. You can't fold that turn or river.

KJ - 3 outs to tie.
AT - 10 outs to win.
QT - 12 outs to win.

[/ QUOTE ]

if you believe this is his complete range, you can't fold the turn but you can fold the river UI
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 TPTK facing turn raise

[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] oops! After considering the gutshot to tie I forgot about it in the wins. Even easier call.
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