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Overplayed the flop ?
I just recently ran into this hand and I feel that I might have overplayed the flop with my 3-bet. What did help was that the turn and the river both slowed down considerably; however, I'm not sure if 3-betting this flop was the wisest choice. Comments ?
PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.10. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Button calls. Flop: (14 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls. Turn: (13 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls. River: (16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button checks. Final Pot: 16 BB |
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Re: Overplayed the flop ?
well you haven't given us any reads, but yes we don't 3-bet OOP here, as a flop raise probably tells us we are behind. What do you think is raising flop, Q9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?
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Re: Overplayed the flop ?
I'm on a different computer so I don't have any stats. But Here's my read. It's a .1 .2 table and these are typical .1 .2 players not the TAG type.
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Re: Overplayed the flop ?
Well, I suspect that there is a good chance that your opponent (who raised pf) and raises again on the flop has an A.
So, I think that you should just have called the flop raise as you had the nut flush draw. |
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Re: Overplayed the flop ?
If you have 11 outs then your flop 3bet is for value.
However, I think that because that sometimes you will have seven outs (somebody already has a flush) and you don't get to checkraise when you make a hand on the turn that I'd just call villian's raise on the flop. |
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Re: Overplayed the flop ?
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Well, I suspect that there is a good chance that your opponent (who raised pf) and raises again on the flop has an A. So, I think that you should just have called the flop raise as you had the nut flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] Suspicion right on target. |
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Re: Overplayed the flop ?
grunch
I think you should 3 bet it. You have 11 outs, the button is padding the pot and if a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] hits you are going to have to donk the turn anyway or it most likely gets checked through. |
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