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Old 08-18-2007, 06:44 PM
xxeximusxx xxeximusxx is offline
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Default What do i do...?stud8

The whole hand pretty much plays itself out except 4th...should i lead out, fold, or c/c. im thinking while looking it over fold would have been better, as i got lucky to make the low, but figured the hearts looked good.
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7 Card Stud High-Low ($3/$6), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.67 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (2.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

5th Street - (2.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

6th Street - (5.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (8.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (11.50 BB)
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:35 PM
Alchemist Alchemist is offline
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Default Re: What do i do...?stud8

Folding would be absurd. I would just bet out. I don't think you want to give free cards and since you've got two high hands in the pot with you they're probably scared of your suited Ace and will check behind on 4th.

No one completed 3rd so assuming you never complete your BI, they have no idea the strength of your hand. Heck even hearts are really live.

You might even have a raise on the river but it's close.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:41 PM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: What do i do...?stud8

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You might even have a raise on the river but it's close.

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I don't think it's close. Seems like a clear raise to me.
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Old 08-18-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: What do i do...?stud8

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You might even have a raise on the river but it's close.

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I don't think it's close. Seems like a clear raise to me.

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You're right. I was thinking there could be some hands that Villain could have that beat us but would just call because he's scared of our board. But after looking more closely he would need two cards <5 underneath to beat us for low and we have a bunch of them. Def raise.
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: What do i do...?stud8

I couldn't raise fast enough.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: What do i do...?stud8

Definitely raise the river. You played it well up to that point. Definitely bet fourth. You've got a decent two-way hand and no one is showing anything particularly threatening.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: What do i do...?stud8

Automatic raise on the river.

I look at it like this: if he backed into a wheel, he would've popped the river, and MOST players would also pop it with any 6 low hand.

also, you had the perfect scenerio here because your position was perfect (ie; raising the river is OK/good because the other low hand had already called one bet...you're acting last, so if you do raise, you have nothing to lose at his point...providing that you have the best low, which I think you do).

Now, on the other hand, if you were acting directly AFTER the KTT4 hand, I probably wouldn't raise the river because at this point I'd be looking to attract the overcall from the other low hand. I also wouldn't raise if I knew that it had next to no shot to fold off BOTH players (which would allow me to scoop) and I also wouldn't raise if I felt his low was kinda rough, and/or, if he was on the tighter side and probably wouldn't call 2 bets cold but would probably call it down for one.

Of course, if there were some heavy betting/raising, then you'd have to go inot the tank to see if there is enough value to the river raise. But, in this hand, I think you can go ahead and raise; looks like +EV to me.
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