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Old 06-01-2007, 07:41 AM
tehDiceman tehDiceman is offline
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Default KK facing a push.

should i be calling or folding? it is a mighty big raise. the thought didnt cross my mind of sets or two pairs.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($3.95)</font>
SB ($1.31)
BB ($0.69)
UTG ($0.68)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($4.82)</font>
CO ($1.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.02, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($0.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.85</font>, Hero calls $3.61.

Final Pot: $7.95
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

it all depends on reads.
of course standard is fold, but

if he's retard - call.
if you won a pot against him lately - call.
if you have been 3betting him preflop - call.
if you've done anything to piss him off - call.
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

So hard to give advice at these stakes because on the one hand, donks will stack off with A6, and on the other hand, people play sets exactly the same way to get money from donks who stack off with A6. And of course, people love just bluffing all-in because your AK missed.

I probably fold this, but I'm not too happy about it either way.
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:59 AM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

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of course standard is fold

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um I call all day.
guess I missed class the day we talked about this.
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:59 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

the more i see it the more i hate it. the raise was just so freaking big. i had no real reads and was playing hudless. the name didnt seem familiar either so i dont think i've seen him before.

now we are two to one on the like/dislike of calling. need more opinions.

of course he turns over the passively played PF AA.

KK has me in the hole for like 3 BI now, mostly against AA. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

i think it ALL depends on your villain and your image. If you are pissing people off, pushing them off hands a lot and generaly people hate you when you play them - it is easy call.
But if you are normal quiet player you are not going to see here something worse than 2pr/set/str8 too often. And i am quite sure of it (however i haven't played 2NL for quite a long time. For what i remember these are not stakes where people make such massie allin-oerbets all the time with trash)

And i would just like to point that it is almost 200BB bet into like 15BB pot!
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

i think i was pissing people off. i was smoking the table raising sometimes 4-5 times in a row.
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

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i think i was pissing people off. i was smoking the table raising sometimes 4-5 times in a row.

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i was 95% sure it was a call before you posted this.
now i am 24562446245562456425% sure.
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

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i think i was pissing people off. i was smoking the table raising sometimes 4-5 times in a row.

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i was 95% sure it was a call before you posted this.
now i am 24562446245562456425% sure.

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yup. easy call then.
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: KK facing a push.

this is such an easy call
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