river bluffraise?

sh58 · #1 10-08-2007, 10:41 AM

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saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($73.80)
BB ($191.69)
Hero ($163.78)
MP ($162.53)
Button ($75.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $4, MP raises to $11, Button calls $11, 2 folds, Hero calls $7.

Flop: ($34.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($34.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: ($34.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $34.50
Main Pot: $34.50, returned to MP.

villain is 22/18/2.27 over 328 hands and seems like a decent player

a fairly insignificant hand really, from a few days ago, but with an important concept. by the way the hand played out and his river bet i was 90%+ that he had exactly QQ and was trying to get in a small valuebet against a J.

i patted myself on the back and folded, and said to him in chat 'you aint getting any value from me outa your QQ'. he claimed he had AJ, but after a short chat admitted he had QQ.

the question i asked myself was shall i use my knowledge to try and win the pot instead of folding. the problem is what can i rep here. no1 has shown any strength so if i had hit a flush i would bet surely. does it matter? will he just think that his hand isn't that strong and muck it?

djj6835 · #2 10-08-2007, 10:59 AM

Just call river. Everybody's hand is so under repped at this point he can be value betting much worse than qq here.

KhalynYohrk · #3 10-08-2007, 11:22 AM

Only way to find out is to try. I think you can safely bluff this river fo sho, just make it a serious biz bet.

skibbel · #4 10-08-2007, 11:24 AM

Bluffing after checking 2 streets is LOL, hope he can't read hands, cause you're repping air.

rakes.a.beach · #5 10-08-2007, 11:27 AM

I don't think you can be 90%+ certain that he has QQ here.

Bluff raise is bad because your line makes no sense.

I'd call here on river

ikestoys · #6 10-08-2007, 11:28 AM

fold pre?

KhalynYohrk · #7 10-08-2007, 11:29 AM

we are utg and a 10 bet is lame for this pot, what if its a srz biz bet like 40 more

sh58 · #8 10-08-2007, 11:41 AM

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fold pre?

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we are 150BB's deep and his raise isn't even 3x. i have to call pretty much and proceed with caution