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Old 11-11-2007, 08:22 AM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

So I suck in these rather common spots, and I'd like to fix that. You know, a good one pair hand out of position against someone besides a calling station.

Villain is 20/11/1.5 over 1200 hands, and he's cold called over 2% of his hands, which is a lot.

1) Do I need to bet more on the flop, or is 3/4 pot okay on this dry board?

2) Is CRAI on the turn spewy or good?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($50)
SB ($10.95)
BB ($52.90)
UTG ($48.25)
Hero ($55.55)
MP1 ($31.50)
MP2 ($145)
MP3 ($51.40)
CO ($16.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($8.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, Button calls $6, UTG folds.

Turn: ($20.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
HeroPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($50)
SB ($10.95)
BB ($52.90)
UTG ($48.25)
Hero ($55.55)
MP1 ($31.50)
MP2 ($145)
MP3 ($51.40)
CO ($16.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($8.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, Button calls $6, UTG folds.

Turn: ($20.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $47.05</font>
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:28 AM
BlueBear BlueBear is offline
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

Based on the stack sizes and against this particular opponent, I don't think you're not going to get called often enough by a worse hand with your turn check-raise. Call the turn, keep the pot under control and re-evaluate river although check-call most reasonably sized bets is probably my default line.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:34 AM
Split Suit Split Suit is offline
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

pretty spewwy turn CRAI. that K shud b all over ur range, and u CRAI on that card pretty much tells anyone that can even slightly think that u have KQ+. i really think u only get called by better hands here, and pretty much never by anything u beat (and a butt-ton beats u).

i probably c/c, c/c (reasonable bet). unless the river pairs the 5...then i probably lead it

(also...plz check ur posts b4 u finalize them. this is the 2nd one at least that has come thru lookin rly rly bad. just makes it harder to read)
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:43 AM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

Thanks for the hand advice. I always preview my posts, though. What in particular do you find objectionable?
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

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What in particular do you find objectionable?

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Eh you pasted twice.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

I think turn C/R is pretty awful on this board.

He's not going to call you with worse very often at all. He's not going to have K-x much, unless he made two pair, but that's bad for you.

Either bet/fold or check/call. Check/raise just folds out worse hands and loses the maximum vs a better hand.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

Wow. I need to get some sleep. Sorry about that. I guess I was seeing double and didn't even realize that was odd.
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

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I think turn C/R is pretty awful on this board.

He's not going to call you with worse very often at all. He's not going to have K-x much, unless he made two pair, but that's bad for you.

Either bet/fold or check/call. Check/raise just folds out worse hands and loses the maximum vs a better hand.

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Old 11-11-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: Standard AA line check OOP vs. 20/11; 50NL

i would bet again on turn 1/2 pot and fold to Raise

if he calls i will see wat the river drops and re-evaluate
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