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Old 03-13-2007, 08:34 AM
Roma Norgy Roma Norgy is offline
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Default NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

Critique welcome on all streets. Did I bet enough on flop/turn/river? Should I have slowplayed a little more? Bet out the flop to begin with?

Thanks in advance.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
9 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
MP1: $52.85
MP2: $48.45
MP3: $50.05
CO: $25.40
BTN: $39.85
Hero (SB): $90.7
BB: $34.9
UTG: $44.50
UTG+1: $40.60

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.75, 9 players)
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2, 4 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $0.50</font>, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $2, CO calls $2

<font color="black">Turn:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($10, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, UTG calls $6, CO calls $6

<font color="black">River:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($28, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8, CO folds

<font color="black">Results:</font>
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a straight, Ace high) and won $41.80
UTG had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces)
Final Pot: $41.80 ($2.20 rake)
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Old 03-13-2007, 08:47 AM
MotorBoatingSOB MotorBoatingSOB is offline
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

I love leading out from the blinds with these kinds of hands. C/Ring sort of gives your opponent a chance to slow down.

I also like betting more on every street. I'm definitely ~potting the turn for value and protection and probably going for about 2/3 pot on the river in case some donk has wandered into a set, two pair, etc. You have the nuts. You need to try to play a bigger pot here.

And just a big fat "wow" for how bad UTG played this.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:20 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

Motor makes good points. I hope you put a note on UTG. Send him to my tables!
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:20 AM
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

this is one of the worst possible flops to slowplay, like half the deck can either kill your action, or put you behind

lol UTG plays horrible
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:10 AM
Roma Norgy Roma Norgy is offline
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

Haha, thanks for the feedback. I'm amazed at just how many n00b plays I let go unquestioned prior to joining 2+2.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:21 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

bet flop, what the [censored] is up with your river bets in every hand? at least $20, probably $24-$28 on the river
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

You realize you would have stacked the guy had you bet 3/4 a pot each street, right?
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:57 PM
Roma Norgy Roma Norgy is offline
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

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You realize you would have stacked the guy had you bet 3/4 a pot each street, right?

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Yes, and that's an easy assessment to make after the fact. But I'm still trying to integrate intelligent, "2+2" thought into my playing DURING hands.

Here was my line of thought during this hand.

Flop: "Woot, nuts, slowplay!"

After min-bet and calls: "I probably should have just bet this out, oh well, now I have to raise."

Turn: "I need to protect against the flush draw but want callers. $6 sounds OK to me."

River: "Flush draw missed, just bet something that's likely to get called."

As you can see, I have A LOT of room for improvement. But I'm playing 10k+ hands a week, paying for coaching, and basking myself in the knowledge and sporadic condescension of the fine folks in this forum. So, I won't be noob forever.

Anyway, thanks for the comments.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:15 PM
Jurrr Jurrr is offline
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

Hypothetical question - assume we are UTG and whiff a limp-reraise (assume table conditions warranted going for it). Against unknowns are we able to get away from this board ever?
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Old 03-13-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: NL50: flopped broadway in an unraised, did I miss some value here?

Let's just say I would probably have lost more then the guy who had aces in this hand.
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