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Old 10-13-2007, 02:58 PM
KCW12 KCW12 is offline
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Default Calling an early open push

Hypothetical situation: It's level 1 in a 9-man SNG, you post the BB. UTG open pushes for his whole stack and it folds around to you. Assume everyone has equal stack sizes, no reads. What hands are you calling with at each buyin level?
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

based on his sharkscope results: QQ+ (even so i don't think a winning player would do that...)
no reads no sharkscope: KK+
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:16 PM
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KK+
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Old 10-13-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

fwiw ive seen this happen once, he had kk, i had qq, spiked a q on the flop
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

There are people who actually play Brunson's ultra-basic strategy for clueless retards: "fold everything except AK and pairs, then push." At lower buyins, you'll see people open pushing 20+bbs with any suited ace even. That doesn't mean you should stack off with TT. Here I'm folding everything but KK+, calling with QQ or lower if I've seen him do it before.
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Old 10-13-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

i just called on a 26 dollar sng with 88 wound up against AK and held woo sportsbook garbage players on there not that im not garbage
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

i posted a hand last year where i called w/ AKo at a $16. the forum seemed to be split on whether or not it was a good play. villain had J3s in that one. if you look at it from a $/hr standpoint i think JJ+,AK is reasonable.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

Nah, I would not call without QQ+. No need to flip or even take a 60/40 early on.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

Sammykid and I were talking about this last week, and alex-star's comment made me think about it:

Is taking a coinflip early in the tournament good for your hourly rate? Assuming you're 8+ tabling continuously.

The question here is, is it better to take that flip and bust out in l1 or l2, thus freeing up another tournament to open? In theory, you'll get in more games per hour, while with a slightly lower winrate because you're busting more often, but the times you don't bust you'll place higher (generally speaking).

Has anyone traveled down this line of thought?
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Calling an early open push

ya i believe there have been a few threads talk about this more in depth
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