PS $60: AK BvB faces big river bet

darinvg · #1 07-11-2007, 08:04 AM

Unknown villain.
Turn check for pot control and not to get check raised good?
Call river?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1500
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1500
CO: t1500
Button: t1500
SB: t1500
Hero: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
7 folds, SB calls t10 (pot was t30), Hero raises to t80, SB calls t60 (pot was t100).

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t160, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t100, SB calls t100 (pot was t260).

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t360, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t360, 2 players)
SB bets t500, Hero calls?

RexWoo · #2 07-11-2007, 08:11 AM

(from lower stackes) I'd bet the turn because I think that if you're raised you can safely release the hand.

Now as played, if you've checked for pot control this is a fold. If you checked to induce a bluff this is a call. Does it make sense ?

I'd probably fold.

Pudge714 · #3 07-11-2007, 08:25 AM

I think the flop and turn are standard. I would call pretty much any river bet, but this overbet is a ten so much.

suzzer99 · #4 07-11-2007, 09:23 AM

Problem with the turn check is you're still letting draws see a free card. Against an unknown, with only 2 seeing the flop, on a coordinated board, I'm never letting off the gas with TPTK.

MikeMcQ1 · #5 07-11-2007, 10:15 AM

Rex, checking for pot control and inducing bluffs go hand-in-hand.

Your line is good as long as you called the river.

Little John · #6 07-11-2007, 10:16 AM

I play it the same way. I think you see Ax, busted draws, and random crap enough to make this a call on the river.

Chipchucker5 · #7 07-11-2007, 10:47 AM

I like the way you played it. Even though it reeks of a T or sixes full, I probably still can't fold it BvB.

darinvg · #8 07-11-2007, 11:03 AM

Nice. I called. Obv he had a ten. Why do people overbet hands like this so much? I would think most people would value bet a smaller amt that is more likely to get called.

MikeMcQ1 · #9 07-11-2007, 11:08 AM

Not that it's any consolation, but he played it horribly, Darin. Unfortuneatly you had one of the only hands you actually would call with that he can beat.

suzzer99 · #10 07-11-2007, 02:01 PM

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Nice. I called. Obv he had a ten. Why do people overbet hands like this so much? I would think most people would value bet a smaller amt that is more likely to get called.

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Because they slowplay, then suddenly realize the only way to make any money off their pretty hand is to overbet. It's actually not a horrible way to play the hand against a solid opponent who might fold a turn bet but be tempted to look up a river bet. But I seriously doubt this guy was thinking at that level.

Edit: actually I thought he had position. I don't think going for the CR on the turn is that bad at all by villian.

I got sucked into one yesterday - T-high flop 4-way pot. I have T7o in BB. Checks around flop and turn, which are a brick and a J on river, no draws. Then UTG open shoves river for 2x pot. Fold fold to me. Why would he do that with a J I ask? What could he have played that way? So curiosity gets the better of me and I call to see TT. Bad I know, save your breath pudge. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Also bet closer to the pot next time on such a coordinated flop.