88 vs a push

[TheFoxNL]

guy came new to the table no reads

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 (t1765)
MP3 (t2505)
CO (t890)
Button (t2570)
SB (t1680)
BB (t1085)
UTG (t6155)
Hero (t1985)
MP1 (t1115)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t890</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero ????

Pot: t1065

[rafiki]

Read ?
Payout structure ?

[4CardStraight]

Assume he is as wide as 10% here.

Hand 0: 43.090% 41.51% 01.58% 6405445 244121.50 { 88 }
Hand 1: 56.910% 55.33% 01.58% 8538229 244121.50 { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo }

43% of the 1755 pot is yours for a net return on average of 754 for your 790 investment. not so good.

Opponent must be wider than 10% to reraise shove for this to be a call. My guess is that most opponents with 21BB stack at this early of a level are tighter than that, so i fold, readless. If I have any indication that this guy knows he should be shoving over me wider than 10% then I call. You are also in relatively decent stack and table position here. If you lose you are not looking so hot with only 1k and most of the people after you covering the 1k, but if you keep your stack you cover both the blinds on your button.... That would edge me to a muck also. the bottom hands from a 10% range are 88, QJs, KQo ATs. If you can imagine this guy doing it with 77 or A9s or KJo maybe this is a good call, but if you think he might even muck KQo or QJs then this is a clear fold.

Readless its hard to tell, but i would have to bet that in general, reraising ranges are tighter than 10%.

[Larude]

I think the minraise is really really bad. In fact i would call here from UTG+1 (standard). Sometimes though i would raise but in this position with the blinds at 50 to 200 or 250. With a call of 100 and a push of 890 i would fold. I think or you are a small favorite or a big underdog, it isn't just worth loosing so much of your stack with this sort of hand. The odds aren't that great.

[rafiki]

Ya I didn't even notice that it was a min raise. I agree with call or decent raise. not a huge min raise fan.

[BigBrad44]

the mini raise is such a bad play. It puts no pressure on your opponents. You should fold here. Early in a tourney you should stay away from coin flips, with no much in the pot already. You should never mini raise, its weak.

[LuckyLloyd]

As stated, Min - rasing is wrong 98% of the time. Especially when you are playing mid - pair UTG.

[TheFoxNL]

ok great thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]