2/4 BD flush came

[smartalecc5]

After only 80 hands on villain he is at 32% vpip /15pfr/ 2.1 agg. When my Bdraw flush comes in on river call really doesn't cross my mind, so I decide to raise. How much to raise to. What about if villain pushes over my reraise.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($261)
MP ($374.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($608.79)</font>
Button ($421.10)
SB ($151.60)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($354.70)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, Button calls $15, SB (poster) calls $13, BB calls $11.

Flop: ($60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25, Button folds, SB folds.

River: ($110) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

[soah]

$165 total, call push. I bet this flop though against most opponents.

[Praetor]

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$165 total, call push.

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sounds good

[MTBlue]

Don't call a push. That's suicide. Raise fold to a push. The way the action went down he isn't pushing a worse hand.

[luckychewy]

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$165 total, call push.

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sounds good

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agreed.

[MTBlue]

Could someone please tell me why we should call the push? I'm not understanding the logic.

[luckychewy]

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Could someone please tell me why we should call the push? I'm not understanding the logic.

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what's not to understand? his pushing range is wider than just flushes and didn't even start the hand with 100bb. raising to fold to a push is suicide. i actually think we might be able to get away with making a smaller raise(maybe even min) cause his weak bet on the end is sooo weak i think he prob often has 1 pair.

[MTBlue]

I've just found that mid stakes people are inherentely afraid of flush cards so the rare times he pushes it will be with a bigger flush. As for the small bet size this could be indicate of a monster trying to get value. This isn't 10/20 where the villain will push a set. THe flop went check check putting lots of backdoor flushes in the villains range. Just b/c aggro high stake opponents aren't afraid to three bet a wide variey to hands doesn't mean a normal 400 player will three bet a wide variety.

[soah]

I said to call a push because he seems to be a mediocre player from his VP$IP and his bet sizing, but he seems reasonably aggressive. Mediocre aggressive players get confused at nonstandard lines and they are exactly the type to completely misread your hand as a result of your flop check. He could have been going for the flop checkraise, or he may have spiked a straight (75) on the turn, or hit it on the river (87). You would be getting something like 550:150 to call a push. I don't like folding big hands when I don't have to so I call here and hope for the best.