JT multiway - bottom 2 facing serious flop heat

[cs3]

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UTG - a mediocre LAG. is at 30/15 over a couple hundred hands and has been fairly passive postflop so far when hes OOP. built up his stack by pushing over a bet and a call on a 9 high flop with TPNK and it help up, then later raised AQ PF, double barreled with air and rivered an A.


MP - a regular multitabling SSNLer. hes a pretty bad TAG who runs at 20/13/1.5
i have him down 8 buyins(-100BB/100 lol) in the 400 hands ive played with him in various sessions. seems to enjoy getting his money in bad although its possible he was tilting the times i played him before. very rarely 3 bets.

i was playing 22/16ish this session and had shown down solid hands so far.

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $352.95
BB: $197.00
UTG: $335.00
MP: $283.25
Hero (CO): $385.35
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, MP calls $7.00, Hero calls $7.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($24) J T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">MP bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $59.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $328.00</font>, MP calls all-in for $258.25, HERO???

<font color="blue"> hows my flop raise?
this is easy now right?
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***edited in MP's flop call***

[Better Than U]

fold preflop. also did MP do something before the action got to you or magically disappear? if he folded I fold, if he called I fold. I mostly fold.

[Nielsio]

Fold preflop

[Imrahil]

Fold PF and don't raise flop.

[Unknown Soldier]

does mp often do this? I usually just call a tags lead here


(Im assuming he folds before it gets back to you)

marginal either way i'd imagine, way too draws for me to bother stoving :P

[cs3]

ya, preflop is kinda ugly.

why are we not raising flop? did you see that the the PF raiser(UTG) checked , and then MP bet the flop?






***also edited OP - MP called the shove***

[Unknown Soldier]

you wont have great equity against his call/pushing range on the flop if you raise.

it depends on how bad mp is i guess

[cs3]

what kinda of range are you giving MP, and what to make of UTG's massive ch/r?

is this a spot that we just have to give flush draws/pair + strt draws a free card then???


if hero just calls MP's bet then whats the plan for a blank turn?

[Better Than U]

fwiw the fact that we have the Js makes this such an easier fold. It cuts down on combo draws and the only combo draw a Queen could have is AQ or Q9 which are both straights. You are destroyed here like always.

[cs3]

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fwiw the fact that we have the Js makes this such an easier fold.

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very good point. did not take this into account during the hand.